I believe I previously mentioned the subject gun I picked up some time back. Well I finally located Rottweil Brenneke slugs that this slug gun was supposedly regulated with. They are called the MP slug and are 1 oz, 2 3/4", 28.4 g loads that they publish go 1450 fps. My first 50 yard group, two from each barrel, went in 2 1/8" landing 2" left of but perfect vertically with the sight picture I was using. A slight drift of the rear sight landed the next 3 pairs in 2 3/8" with 5 of the 6 going in 1 1/8" dead center of point of aim. Next 2 pairs went 2" even, last 2 pairs went 1 3/8". The gun is a kick to shoot with the Brenneke slugs "zinging" (literally) downrange and a major cloud of dust when they hit the dirt backstop. With 25" barrels and weighing just under 7#, I think I have found the perfect Texas hog gun. Next I'll back off to 75 yards and then maybe 100. Fun stuff...

ED, you are indeed a lucky man, you better go buy a lotto ticket. A shotgun that will place slugs from both barrels into a common group measureing under 2 ft in dia, at 50 yds, is about as common as hen's teeth! You better hang onto that shotgun! I would also lay in a supply of those shells as well!

I can guarentee you will put any hog down that ever lived with thos 12 ga slugs from Brenneke!

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Double barrel slug guns have existed for years in Europe for boar hunting. They are usually superposed, but I have seen juxtaposed versions as well. Barrels are around 50cm and have iron sights. Some companies will rifle one barrel and have a removeable choke on the other. They are regulated out to about 35m.
They seldom find their way to side of the Atlantic, but I may have one in a few weeks to evaluate.

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KurtC, as you are, no doubt, aware, there have been S/S doubles, in the UK, called PARADOX rifles that are rifled in about the last ten inches of the barrels, and chambered in guages, but were never intended for shot. These are the same as the old O/Us of Europe, also PARADOX rifles, not slug guns,but were designed as RIFLES not shotguns. looking exactly like any other double rifle, but designed to shoot 12 bore, 10 bore, and so on, brass cartridges with crimped in bullets, not slugs. Hunderds of these were shipped to India in the 1890s to use on tiger, and Asian rhino. Many of them found there way to Africa as well, and were only replaced when the very effecient "TINY" 450NE 3.25" doubles were found to be more effective, with less recoil, and weight.

I have several double shot guns, but only one out of the lot will group slugs together, past 10 yds. I do have several "CAPE GUNS" that will place a Brenneke slug right beside the rifle shot at 100 yds, but these were designed to do just that. A regular double shotgun that will group, is, as I said, as rare as teeth from a hen's beak!

When you get the piece to evaluate let us know what you find!

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MacD37,
I know of the paradox rifles, but have never fired one. I have also seen a paradox revolver in .410/.45LC.
I was referring to the current manufactured shotguns. I believe Sabatti calls theirs the Olimpo Slug EA. I'm not really sure of the manufacturer for the one I have coming in.

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Here's a picture of what I have. Only difference is that mine is silver finished rather than case colored. Has the same boar engraved on each side. This one is for sale at Chadicks, a bit pricey in my mind.

http://doubleguns.com/165056b.jpg

Mac,
Ed hasn't got a usual double gun. In the restrictive political climate that seems to come and go in southern Europe, many hunters pack sxs shotguns that are regulated to throw slugs to a common point. AS you can imagine they are death on boar, fallow deer and mouflan sheep (if the range isn't to great). The ability to use shot in them is an additional benefit. That sort of thing would be really useful here in California where pig season never closes and the tasty varmints often are found in quail cover. I've though of putting a pop-up peep on my Browning Citory for just such eventualities.

sarge

Hey Ed,
I've been interested in a 12 bore rifled side by side shotgun for some time now but have never even seen one up close and personal. Can these be ordered from Ugartechea? What is the price range? I saw the one on the Chadick's site. Sounds like a lot of fun!
Good Hunting,

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Mine is not rifled, it's a smooth bore and unchoked. I do not know if Ugartachea still makes them but I have been told that mine was called the "Jabali". It really handles and swings well, has sling swivels, properly layed out stock for the open sights which consist of a small bead on a low ramp up front and a drift adjustable leaf dovetailed in the rear. I picked mine up about 4 months ago at a very large and typically overpriced collector gunstore here in Houston for $450. It was just another Spanish gun to them (my second Uggie from them so far). Keep looking.

Speaking of SxS "slug" guns in shotgun guages, a buddy of mine did something that I
thought was ingenious. He took an old, cheap Stevens 311 12 ga. SxS and mounted front & rear sights on it, then shot slugs (Foster type) and found it crossfired. Well, he took
a look at the way those barrels angle inward, and wondered if shortening the barrels would reduce, and maybe even regulate POI of the two barrels. Having an idea and a hacksaw, he went to work. He trimmed the barrels an inch at a time, and indeed, the more he cut, the closer the barrels shot together! Well,
he progressed until he got to 22 1/2", and lo and behold, the barrels were regulated at 75 yds.! He can roll pop cans at 50 almost every shot, now, and that's from offhand, and it's with the std. smooth-bored barrels, too.

He's prouder of this short, stout SxS slug gun than if it were a Purdey! Works dang good for a south Georgia swamps hawg gun, too! He's taken some with it, and the results were most gratifying. If anyone wants a similar gun, the Stevens 311's are cheap, and so are hacksaw blades. Pretty it won't be, but to tell the truth, for a swamp hawg gun, it really looks appropriate to the task when completed.