The other day I looked at a .450 Marlin with a ported barrel. I used to have a Marlin in .45-70 and it was a beast. Just to much recoil to even be fun. A guy at work says his .450 guide gun with ported barrel is very mild like a .30-30. This same guy say his .338 Winny with muzzle brake still kicks hard so I want to believe the porting works on the Guide gun. Anyone have experience shooting the ported .450?

I have a GG in 450 Marlin, believe this
IT AINT NO 30-30!!!!!

I like shooting mine alot, but it does get my attention, stock design and the standard LOP doesnt fit me too well, so I feel it. Your design may be different.

In regards to the porting on it, I really think it does more in the noise department than it does to mitigate recoil, and in fact I have thought about having a bushing made to cover the ports.

IMO though, with practice, most folks shouldnt find it to be a problem.

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A guy at work says his .450 guide gun with ported barrel is very mild like a .30-30.

Send him to a psyche ward for evaluation! He's fired that gun way too much!

I bought a 1895G ported when they first came out. I had it for years. Shot some elk and deer with it. My favorite was 460 gr hardcasts with a max load of AA2230. It was no 30-30! The porting was a joke. The last elk I shot with it I was in dense timber, shot 4 or 5 times at a rag horn, it was dead on its feet, its the only time I remember my ears ringing after shooting at game with a rifle ever. It was just plain loud! I would get one without the ports I don't even think they make them ported anymore. The stock is made for a very tiny man, I put an F990 pad on mine which made it tollerable.

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A guy at work says his .450 guide gun with ported barrel is very mild like a .30-30. This same guy say his .338 Winny with muzzle brake still kicks hard

I was of the understanding that muzzle brakes are typically more efficient the higher the pressure and greater gas volume and more over bore the cartridge is.
eg; the MB would be more efficient on a 7mmRUM than say 280rem.
So I cannot understand the claim of the 338win still kicking hard, whilst the .450 has been tamed.

correct me if im wrong, a muzzle brake reduces recoil, a ported barrel reduces muzzle "flip" and doesnt do much for felt recoil. I have a couple of big bore handguns that i ported and noticed a big difference in muzzle flip and control.

DD, I think you are correct. Although my experience with brakes and/or porting is limited as I cant really stand either of them.

In regards to the ports on the GG, I am not too sure they do much of anything besides make it REAL LOUD, whatever diff they make in the muzzle lift department, I am willing to lose in order to make it quieter.

Donald, as most .450 Marlins are on lever-action platforms, you might get additional answers in our 'Lever-Action Rifles' forum.

George

A good MB will reduce muzzle flip, redirect a percentage of recoil and redirect some of the noise, but on the 450 they're not enought holes and they're too small to really do anything but slightly reduced muzzle flip, I think.

Huhters REALLY need to wear noise suppression devices in or on their ears...the electronic ones allow hearing but stop the big booms and also the hi-freq.

Check out some of the levergun forums...the ported 450 Marlin was a hot subject for a while.

Luck

Thanks guys I think I got all the answers I need.

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:
The other day I looked at a .450 Marlin with a ported barrel. I used to have a Marlin in .45-70 and it was a beast. Just to much recoil to even be fun. A guy at work says his .450 guide gun with ported barrel is very mild like a .30-30. This same guy say his .338 Winny with muzzle brake still kicks hard so I want to believe the porting works on the Guide gun. Anyone have experience shooting the ported .450?

The noise will be so bad you won't notice the kick as much!

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Originally posted by Donald Nelson:
The other day I looked at a .450 Marlin with a ported barrel. I used to have a Marlin in .45-70 and it was a beast. Just to much recoil to even be fun. A guy at work says his .450 guide gun with ported barrel is very mild like a .30-30. This same guy say his .338 Winny with muzzle brake still kicks hard so I want to believe the porting works on the Guide gun. Anyone have experience shooting the ported .450?

Hi Don,

I have both 450 and 45/70 in Guide Gun form (ported barrels) and a 450 Marlin XLR. I have no problems with recoil in any of these but to say that it shoots like a 30-30 is simply ridiculous. If you thought the Marlin lever gun was a beast with standard, off the shelf 45/70 loads then I don't think you would enjoy the ported 45/70 or 450 Marlin much better.

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
The noise will be so bad you won't notice the kick as much!

That's why you should use quality hearing protection - then it won't be a problem at all.

Guys, I just sold my blued/ported GG and bought a stainless nonported. Only had it out once to zero. I'm sure it kicks slightly more. No earthshattering difference but it's there. I'm shooting 420 hard cast at around 1700 so not even full power. It still getrts your attention.

I got both a 30-30 and a 450 marlin in lever action marlin rifles.

My 450 is the 1895MXLR with the 24" stainless non-ported barrel. and my 30-30 is the 336, nothing special.

And I can tell you the 450 recoil is GREATLY more significant. I can shoot my 30-30 all day long without hesitation. My 450 I would only like to shoot about 10-15 times before I start getting a flinch.