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Anyone have a Trijicon Accupoint 1-6 X24 on a big-bore (.458 WM or equivalent)? If so...thoughts on it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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450/400 ruger #1, have about 80 rounds through it, no problems so far. also have one on an 8 lb 375 H&H. | |||
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they work on heavy rifles work quite well it is all in the mounting and sighting in of the thing lots of ways to do it for my money the look on the lower left is the way to go  Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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I am an upper left corner kinda guy...but good to know others are using them without issue. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I'm a lower right corner kinda guy. Studying them , I see there is quite a difference between the 1-4 and the 1-6 . and 300 more bucks. With 3.9" of constant eye relief and submersible to 10 feet. It seems they are well put together. I vastly prefer mil/mil . I've learned mils somewhat and it works for me. Since I use a 458 as something of an all around rifle . I like being able to range and elevate with the reticle. On a 458 I don't crank elevation . But some loads don't print where the primary load does. But , that's just me. For $1,400 I would expect first focal plane tho. Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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They have a reason that they prefer second focal plane for these scopes for some reason. Forgot the story. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This one has the lower left sort of reticle that stradling likes: BAC (orange), Triangle Post  It works great on Black Rifles too. If I get another one, it will be the lower right reticle like CTF goes for: Mil-Dot Crosshair Any of them would be nice on a Spruce King. I would prefer the 1"-tube over the 30mm tube on a .458 WinMag.   Rip . | |||
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I know nothing about Trijicon scopes but being a reliability-first kinda guy, I have some resolve about scopes with big magnification multiples and reticles in the 'second' focal plane. Increasing multiples obviously comes at some engineering-integrity cost or the sky would have been the limit 70 years ago. For a long time it was considered too hard by most makers to go beyond 3x multiples. What that cost is I don't know but I suspect it may have an added downside in image-movement scopes of taking weight farther forward in the erector tube, making them even more susceptible to recoil and bumps. Not only are second-focal-plane reticles a reminder of the modern decadence but they are a potential source of moving impact when you change power, because the 'field' is ahead of the aiming mark and subject to movement if there is any slop in the power scroll. Makers assure us they have got over this problem but ... they would say that, wouldn't they. For most uses there is probably no problem with either big multiples or SFP reticles over a reasonable life - but we are talking big-bore rifles and whatever can go wrong there, eventually will. | |||
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I have 2 of them. used them as primary scope first two safaris. There is better glass for the $$$ trijicon wants out there. Would I buy another - no. Would I sell mine - no. They are on a sako 9.3x62 and ruger Alaskan. Mike | |||
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I have run the 1-4 30mm "lower left model with a green post" for several years on my .416 with NO issues. Very happy with it. I also have an older 1" 1.25-4.25 on a .375 that is just as solid as ever. "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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Give it time. If the erector tube doesn't pack it in, the light might ... or you could fail to see some big cat in a tree because the battery housing blocks your view  | |||
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I had on with the lower left reticle in green. For quick shooting i did not like it. I always shot high. I tended to use the whole illuminated part of the post as a dot instead of just the point. Still have it if anyone is interested. It's a 1-4 though. Mac | |||
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Same issue with me - you need to aim the tip of the triangle not the triangle. I have not seen any material improvement in the scope over the last 7 years. No newer models etc. I have seen the price climb. I would get a discounting vx6 for same price before a trijicon. Mike | |||
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Looking back at the pictures I'd googled for the 1-4x variable, I discover that the one with the large battery housing on the ocular is in fact the 1-6x24, the subject of the original post. Sorry JCS271 - my bad, as they say in the classics. In reference to that OP, however, I can now say I do have something against that scope. It's the enormous battery housing - the mountain over the tunnel - assuming the field blending is no better than the Trijicon picture through a scope from my Internet search. Why do hunters put up with this sort of stuff? Though any magnification hides a lot of country, I'd prefer not to be reminded of it by scope views shadowy as a what-the-butler-saw machine's. Years ago good scopes gave fine lines separating the internal and external fields of view. Many were just fuzzy suggestions, like looking through a hunting aperture with the disc off. I have one picture taken through a Nickel 1x12 where you can hardly see the diaphanous divide at all and branches of the subject lemon tree just continue across it in surprising alignment. If you want to risk putting a scope on a big-bore, dangerous-game rifle, this is a factor you might consider. | |||
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I would rather spend some more and get this one http://www.eurooptic.com/swaro...black-69138-new.aspx It beats this for the additional dollars http://www.opticsplanet.com/tr...-apt-riflescope.html But the vx6 that is discontinued is a great scope too. Mike | |||
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Swaro seems to have forgotten the old wisdom, too, and also puts the battery on their enormous ocular housing. At least Leupold puts it elsewhere and has reasonable field blending. | |||
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The last thing I want on a rifle is a battery, me being a curmudgeon and all..I am anti gun gimmicktery! I don't like humongous scopes, and not quite sold on varibles, still like irons on all my rifles and can't abide high dollar scotch!...I know!! its the 21 century, Im just not there yet, may not for that matter!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I was agreeing with you, Ray, up until you said: Oh, my.  Now I know if I ever get the chance to share a bottle with you I'm buying the Scotch. . | |||
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The problem with scotch is often that (compared with Irish whiskey and Bourbon) the makers are so ... Scotch. Some won't waste the 'heads', one won't leave out the fusel oils and I suspect some of the coastal ones of drying the maltose with seaweed, if not old sheepskins or dags Then, they have the hide to charge twice as much as for blended whisky. | |||
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The scope in question by the OP doesn't have a battery. None of the Accupoints do. | |||
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I did notice one picture with pale material under that wide turret on the ocular. Whatever the purpose, it is a bad place to put it IMHO. | |||
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 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Well, I made a trade for a new one and received it yesterday. Going to put it on my .458 in the G&H mount and shoot it just to see it the rifle and mounts were the problem or if it was the scope. The scope is at Leupold receiving a check-up...haven't heard its status yet. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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