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15 April 2017, 22:34
shootaway
Question on the Win.458WM Safari Express
Does this rifle come with a one piece trigger guard assembly that includes an integral magazine box or is the magazine box separate from the trigger guard assembly?
16 April 2017, 00:08
ColoradoMatt
The box is separate. I believe Duane Wiebe sells a box that will get you an extra round.


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16 April 2017, 00:35
shootaway
If the box is separate Winchester should not list it as a "one piece bottom metal".
16 April 2017, 02:13
ColoradoMatt
The trigger guard to the front tang is one piece., as opposed to two piece, which, I believe, most model 70's were until they started production in South Carolina. That seems to be their reasoning for putting it that way. Mauser and model 70 minutiae can differ.


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16 April 2017, 09:08
Cougarz
The new model 70's are one piece bottom metal with a separate box like CM said. The one piece also eliminates the sometimes troublesome third action screw.


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16 April 2017, 21:51
AFRICAN LEADWOOD
I guess the mag box is the middle metal. I have both versions of Mod 70. I don't really consider the one patricularly beneficial over the other. And I'd still buy that 458...
16 April 2017, 23:35
Atkinson
The bottom metal is one piece, the magazine box is separate, I suspect that could be remedies with two spots of weld or glass on each side of the box..might need a tad of inletting to put it back in the wood, but not likely but Im not sure about that.


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16 April 2017, 23:43
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
If the box is separate Winchester should not list it as a "one piece bottom metal".


its a one piece bottom, george.. not 2, as other choice or the ruger. it's one piece, from front to rear screw, without the alignment/tightening issue you can have otherwise -

that YOU consider the mag to be more than 1 piece,,,, well, heck, son, about the one "one piece" bottom metal, in your estimation, could be the 1903 --- as even military mausers have about 10 pieces in the bottom metal....


sometimes experience counts more than edumacashuon


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Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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17 April 2017, 00:08
shootaway
I don't consider the two piece Ruger garbage to be called bottom metal at all.The way I see it you either have a one piece bottom metal with an integral mag box or a two piece bottom metal with a sheet metal mag box.The Winchester is case two.
17 April 2017, 01:44
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I don't consider the two piece Ruger garbage to be called bottom metal at all.The way I see it you either have a one piece bottom metal with an integral mag box or a two piece bottom metal with a sheet metal mag box.The Winchester is case two.


then, by YOUR count, the ruger is 3 ... just saying, george


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
17 April 2017, 02:49
shootaway
yes, three
17 April 2017, 04:05
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
yes, three


and yet there's over 10 actual pieces in that "three" piece bottom


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com