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I do not see this option on their website anymore. Has anyone heard if they have cancelled this chambering?
 
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AHR is probably more interested in the .600 OK right now.-Rob
 
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Rob,

Do you know if Plummer is serious about offering the 600 OK? Should I contact him directly?

What is the rim thickness of the 600 OK?

[ 11-23-2002, 03:12: Message edited by: 500 AHR ]
 
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I'm certain Ed at AHR would love to build .600 Overkills commercially. He is working with me on the CZ action mods and certainly has all the expertice necessary.-Rob
 
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I do not see this option on their website anymore. Has anyone heard if they have cancelled this chambering?

Rob,
You do know that 500 AHR is ToadE, right?

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Rob,

Thanks for the info. I sent Ed an email. I actually like the 585 idea better from a bullet availability standpoint. The .62" bore is enticing though.

Jeffeosso,
Nice to have you around to inform everyone. Keep up the good work.

[ 11-23-2002, 21:51: Message edited by: 500 AHR ]
 
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Jeffeosso,
Nice to have you around to inform everyone. Keep up the good work.

and your goodbyes/i'm-leavings as honest as a whore's moans

go away... you've promised you would enough
 
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Jeffeosso,

Why do you want to see me gone so badly? Pecos shares your desire, but cannot stop posting to me. I even questioned him about it and he posted back. Further I told him to stop posting to me and I would leave. Funny he did not. I won't go, but I will cut back on my posting.

Unlike many, I post here (seriously) to help my fellow shooters with questions they might have. I also post here (unseriously) to make the posier wannabes honest and to screw with their fantasy lives. Which are you? If you are the former we can, and should be, friends. If the latter, just remember it is all in good natured fun.

BTW, I spoke with Plummer about a year ago about the 585 AHR. At that time he was still R&Ding the rifle, but provided me with a quote. He was to let me know when he was ready to order barrels. I have not heard from him and I have not followed-up, until now. I know that Rob has been working with AHR so I figured I would ask the question here (reason for this thread). Rob replied and I then decided to follow-up. The 600 OK is an intriging cartridge, and I may actually have one made, but I like the more "readily" available bullet selection of the .585 bore. So I asked Plummer to provide me with an update on the status of the 585 AHR and the 600 OK. I suspect I will hear something Monday or Tuesday. Would you like to know what he has to say? Have I explained myself sufficiently?

There is no trolling going on here. In all honesty I was shocked that I was not openly attacked for sharing all that case capacity data I shared yesterday evening. FYI, most of my serious posting is done via PM now. There seem to be several members that do not want to be harrassed for speaking to me publicly, so they do so privately. This is fine with me, is it ok with you?
 
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I would llike to learn what happned to the 585 ahr. Is it still planned, or was it cancelled?
 
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500grains,

I'll let you know what Ed Plummer has to say on the matter.
 
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Jeffeosso,

Why do you want to see me gone so badly? in short, because you are cretan, and such a man (geneticaly, i'll assume) that can not be trusted with small truths, much less the greater ones. Your entire world degenerates from your view/ or lacke there of , in reality. You post that I am answering to speaks to this with an eloquence that I can't. Trying to establish a limited set of choices, that encompas what you would wish the current reader to have a a reasonable set of solutions, and ignoring your past.
You are not a subject matter expert as you try to carry yourself off as, or, as far as I can tell, capable of defining what's truth. You, yourself, posted that you do not own any of the guns you had stated you owned, then suddendly, you have all of these arms. Further, you stated that you actually don't much like guns. Your words, not mine, as ToddE.


Pecos shares your desire amoung many many others , but cannot stop posting to me. I even questioned him about it and he posted back. Further I told him to stop posting to me and I would leave. Funny he did not. funny, the only way to communicate on this board is private message or posting, it strikes me odd that you would raise an issue in public, and not explect an honest man to answer you in the same forum. Unless you just power trip that much on having the last word. I won't go, but I will cut back on my posting. never heard that before from you... see my first comment. Or, do you mean that you will stop using this #8710 ID, and dig up another that you, disingenuously, use to hide the fact that you, ToadE, are the generator of this turmoil and static?

Unlike many, I post here (seriously) to help my fellow shooters with questions they might have. I also post here (unseriously) to make the posier wannabes honest and to screw with their fantasy lives. or three, an honest gun crank that enjoys truth, spiced with a couple tall tales Which are you? and answering this would define your perspective, in effect agreeing that you are one or the above. I'll state that you, sir, are a POSser, unable to even pretend to keep your lies straight. Where is one picture of one of the rifles you own/shoot/touched? ONE? ONE? beuhler?
If you are the former we can, and should be, friends. sir, you have demonstrated a patent ability to disregard truth, regardless of your "gun collection [mossberg 500, as I recall you posting]" I would not choose to be friends with the likes of you. If the latter, just remember it is all in good natured fun. funny, you don't take being screwed with that way.. ah, yes, did I mention you are a hypocrite?

FYI, most of my serious posting is done via PM now. ah, where that the only way you talked

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you feet stink, your aim is bad, and you don't love jesus... the last in just "good natured fun"

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hmm, wonder what happens if I click the "ignore member" button on the profiles pages?
 
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500grains,

Here is what Ed had to say about 585 AHR.

"The 585 AHR is still alive and well, but I have really been pushing the 500.
I'll get it going again the first of the year and I will let you know.."

He also said they are doing some action work for hte 600 OK. I prefer the 585 diameter bullet, though myself. I will await Ed's reply next year. Actually, IMHO from a business standpoint I think Ed's approach of pushing the 500 makes a WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE than pushing a 585. The 585 is just COOL not practical!
 
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500ahr, thanks for Ed's update. It sounds like Ed has let the project languish for whatever reason.

I am not sure what is more practical about a 500 compared to a 585. Both cost a lot to build, a lot to shoot, and recoil is excessive. In my opinion, neither of them is appropriate for a customer who is not an experienced reloader and capable of withstanding a battering at the shooting range.

But this sport is about fun after all, and I will not let practicality interfere with fun.
 
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500grains,

Perhaps I spoke out of turn. I do not have any experience with any of the 585 bolt actions. I do have considerable shooting experience with the 500 AHR and 505 Gibbs. To me both of these rifles are the maximum I can hunt with. Recoil is to the level I can barely operate the gun in a timely manner. I can shoot a 416 quicker, but in my experience the 500's do a much better job of shocking (slowing down and killing the prey) than the 416 so I can live with a little slower second shot. I made my comment about the practicallity of the 500 over the 585 based on an assumption that recoil would be "over the top" from a hunting perspective with the 585. Again I have no experience with the 585, so that statement is by no means correlated to the real world.

I would agree with you 110% that both the 500 and 585 require above average capability to withstand heavy recoil and advanced knowledge of reloading.

[ 11-25-2002, 21:26: Message edited by: 500 AHR ]
 
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