What is the lightst weight I can build my Lott, and not suffer from excessive recoil with full house loads.
I'm planning to build it with a Break by BP-Tech and a Limbsaver pad
Dr B

DrB,

I would go no lighter then 9.5 pounds...I also can say I looked at both pads and the Pachmayr 990decelerator is above and beyond..
I also shoot the Ruger in 458 Lott..

Will send you a pm..

Mike

The Limbsaver is certainly a good idea. I have one on my Lott. Although I do not have a break on my rifle, I've been told there would be little appreciable value from using one.

Bull1

I tried a Slip over Limbsaver on my Ruger Lott and didn't like it at all. I installed a Pachmayr Decellarator on it and it greatly improved it. I'm suspicious of how well the Limbsaver would hold up on a heavy recoiling rifle whereas the Pachmayr is a well proven commodity.





I kinda like the red pad on an African caliber rifle.....................DJ

Hi Dr B:

I wouldn't go lighter than an even 10 lbs. I also would go with the Pachmyr pad, I have them on four custom rifles and they are great.

My custom AHR 458 Lott goes 12 lbs. with two mercury tubes in the stock and a custom break, and it still kicks like hell...

Regards... Jim P.

Dr. B,

My Rem.700 .458 Lott weighs just a shade over 9 1/4 lbs loaded. It has a Pachmayer Decelerator Pad and it is Magnaported. I once shot it 6 times as fast as I could reload while
running after a rapidly departing wounded elephant (Yes, he finally cratered in an upright position). Believe me you don't notice the recoil at a time like that. Your .458 Lott will be carried a Lott more than shot.
Sighting in works best from a standing bench and a couple of 5 to 10 lb shot bags tied together and placed over your shoulder helps quite a bit. As I've mentioned before recoil is a momentary thing while gravity goes on forever.

Rich Elliott

Make it as heavy as you are comfortable carrying all day. About 11-12 lbs. is good for me for any big kicker, meaning Lott and above.

That way, you can get in enough practice to become good with it, and comfortable with it. And you will be confident when the time comes to make your shot.

My Lott weighed in @ 9 1/4# w/ iron sights. I found it pretty brutal w/ 500gr loads. For me, 10#-11# is about right.

Forget the brake and have it built to weight 10 to 10.5 lbs.
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"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

Mine weighs 10 1/2 and has a mercury recoil reducer installed. I wouldn't have it an ounce lighter. In my experience, I have never noticed any recoil when shooting at elephants or buffalo.

465H&H

What about the Kick Eez pads on this application?

Unlike dj, I really like the Limbsaver pads on my RSMs (Rigby and Lott). A light Lott is tough with full loads. Yes, you won't feel it when shooting at game but when practicing you WILL notice it IMO. My iron sighted #1 Lott was the worst, but even my RSMs needed a bit more weight. I haven't weighed my RSMs, but with rings and Leupold 1.5/5 scopes I guess they weigh 10.25/10.5lbs, and I personally wouldn't go under that. Even with a good stock shape and proper LOP that extra 1 to 2 lbs makes a huge difference in recoil. I like a rifle I am comfortable shooting. That extra weight can transform a rifle from one that I can shoot to one which I want to shoot!
When I was at Rick Freudenbergs shop years ago he showed me a lightweight 450 Ackley he built for a customer that was probably 8 pounds. That rifle would be a great back up gun but one I wouldn't want to shoot much

John

I once owned a Brown Precision rifle in 450 Ackely. It would toss a 500 gr slug at 2400 fps.I am guessing it weighed just under 8 pounds when it was wearing it's syn stock. I would hand the rifle off to people to let them shoot it to experience how a rifle could really kick! No one ever asked to shoot it twice. I sold it.

The answer to bench recoil on boomers is a Lead Sled. I never could get myself in the mood to shoot more than 20 or shots off the bench with my Lotts until I invested in a Lead Sled. It was one of the best $100 I've spent. The first day I shot off of it I shot every round of 458 Lott that I had with me with no discomfort off the bench. As mentioned before while hunting you won't notice the recoil as much.
In my earlier picture the Dakota rifle had just had it's Kick-Ez pad replaced. The Kick-Ez pad was only a year or two old and had crumbled chuncks out around the edges. It's one of the reasons I avoid the over soft pads, they can get pretty natty looking quickly...........DJ

Any one have any experience with the Leas Sled as fo as point of impact. Is it the same of the sled as off hand?

465H&H

Good question 465

I haven't noticed any difference so far but I certainly would check zero on any rifle both normaly off the bench and offhand. I see the Lead Sled mainly as a tool for less painfull load developement and testing..........DJ

My first 458 Lott was about 9#'s on the button, and even with a ported barrel, it was brutal. My latest 458 Lott is 10#'s and change, and even off the bench it isn't too bad.

With a good muzzlebrake, you could probably go down to 8 1/2 #'s, but with an unbraked Lott, you'll regret anything under 10#'s.