For those that haven't used it, here's what to expect from Wipe Out bore cleaner.

1) Fill the bore and let soak according to directions ( i let it soak overnight)

2) This is what you see the next morning...


3) The first patch through the bore looks like this...


4) This shows the puddle of copper that dripped out of the barrel and what the fist patch pushed through the bore.


5) This shows the second patch through the bore and the black on the patch is powder fouling. A second (sometimes a thrid is needed) application get's rid of the powder fouling.


That's why the guys that use Wipe Out reccomend it so much to the guys that don't.

One soaking, one patch and the copper is gone.

PS - no ammonia.

new_guy,

Thanks for the photos. It looks like you triple-posted. Would you like me to delete the two additional posts?

George

Nice photos.

In order to keep the dripping on the bench to a minimum, I take an old water bottle (Arrowhead, etc.) and cut a notch in it so that I can place it over the end of the barrel. The notch is the clear any front sight. I then keep it on as the solvent works. It might even work on a double if you cut most of the mouth off the bottle.

I keep the bottle on as I push patches through. That way they stay in the bottle. Removing the patches from the bottle is a simple as shaking them out of the bottle into the trash. The notch makes it easy to get the spent patches out.

I'll also usually run a brush and patch through the bore with some Shooter's Choice before applying the Wipeout as I believe that I get more carbon out that way.

-Steve

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Originally posted by GeorgeS:
new_guy,

Thanks for the photos. It looks like you triple-posted. Would you like me to delete the two additional posts?

George

Yes, please delete the duplicates - i was having trouble loggin on this morning, and still am...

anyway, i can't delete them from here.

Never mind- i've got them...

Any experience with the new "accelerator" Wipout has now come out with? I have to agree that thjis product is fantastic. I bought a series of diameters of taigon surgical tubing to fit each bore and apply the foam with this tube which prevents any from coming back into the chamber. Good tip on the water bottle--I've just had a towel on the bench which becomes a mess after a while.

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Originally posted by Steve:
Nice photos.

In order to keep the dripping on the bench to a minimum, I take an old water bottle (Arrowhead, etc.) and cut a notch in it so that I can place it over the end of the barrel. The notch is the clear any front sight. I then keep it on as the solvent works. It might even work on a double if you cut most of the mouth off the bottle.

I keep the bottle on as I push patches through. That way they stay in the bottle. Removing the patches from the bottle is a simple as shaking them out of the bottle into the trash. The notch makes it easy to get the spent patches out.

I'll also usually run a brush and patch through the bore with some Shooter's Choice before applying the Wipeout as I believe that I get more carbon out that way.

-Steve

I usually just set a small cup on top of the bench and under the bores. It works well for catching the drippings. It was late last night - I forgott the cup.

Damn, I thought my patches came out dark blue, but nothing like that. Although I usually only let it sit 3-4 hours before patching then reapplying it. I guess leaving it overnight would be more sure to get it all in one application.

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I bought a series of diameters of taigon surgical tubing to fit each bore and apply the foam with this tube which prevents any from coming back into the chamber

Where did you order that from?

I have been using clear tubing from the auto parts store, but it gets hard and hard to seal after using it about three or four times.

Thanks,

lawndart

Thanks new guy, your photos are REALLY exhaustive! I hope that I will find Wipe Out in Italy (not sure). - Lorenzo

Why bother cleaning it so spic 'n' span? You're just going to redeposit more...aren't you?

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I hope that I will find Wipe Out in Italy (not sure). - Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

I've sent several e-mails to the producer (Paul something) to find out if there is anyone who imports Wipe Out to Europe. So far I have gotten no replys...

If you find out about a distributor here in Europe, please report back here!

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Originally posted by Nitroman:
Why bother cleaning it so spic 'n' span? You're just going to redeposit more...aren't you?

It's not me getting it so spic'n span... it's the cleaner

I just run a couple of patches down the bore.

Yes, Wipe Out is good stuff. Cleaned my 338 Lapua last night and then gave a 300 Win a shot of it. Will patch it out soon and move on to my RSM Rigby. Wipe Out has made cleaning my bores so much easier. Buy a dozen cans at one time from JPaul and it helps the cost a bit. I wish my local shop carried it, but alas they pointed to their stock of other products and said they have similar stuff and don't need to carry it

John

Hey new guy:
What's the deal with the wedge still sticking out between the muzzles? Is the rifle unfinished? Do you intend to dress it off, or leave it like that? Just wondering...

I just put a zip-loc bag over the end of the barrel and shoot it in there through a bore guide. Works great. Midway sells it about as cheap as anyone.

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Originally posted by Marrakai:
Hey new guy:
What's the deal with the wedge still sticking out between the muzzles? Is the rifle unfinished? Do you intend to dress it off, or leave it like that? Just wondering...

That's a Chapuis - I don't know why they leave them that way but they do.

I'm going to leave it just the way it is...

Yeah, I wouldn't touch a thing!!

New Guy: my results have been somewhat of a disappointment with Wipe Out. Although my patches come out exactly like yours, I find myself having to apply three and four treatments after shooting as little as 9 rounds per rifle. I try to place the rifle level on the gun cradle but I notice you seem to angle your barrels down in order for the stuff to dribble out. Could this be what I/m doing wrong? jorge

Great results New Guy! I have a can of Wipe Out but have not used it yet. When you are shooting the stuff in the barrel/s what did you do to plug the other end?

John

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Originally posted by ErikD:
I've sent several e-mails to the producer (Paul something) to find out if there is anyone who imports Wipe Out to Europe. So far I have gotten no replys...

Erik, I seem to recall some of our UK friends managed to get some imported. Ask over on the European forum, perhaps??

I brought home some cans last time I went to the States. It does work as advertized, but is best left over night, to achieve results such as those posted here. I will say this, though:

1) it must be pretty poisonous stuff - don't get it on your hands or other skin. I have taken to wearing disposable gloves when I use it.

2) you have to be darn careful with using it on guns with wooden stocks. It is pretty tough on wood finishes. Even though you may develop a good application routine, from time to time, some of the darn foam is pretty much everywhere. I don't think I'd personally use it on an expensive Prechtl Mauser, say.

3) Depending on whether the timing of cleaning with Wipeout suits you, it may be practical or not. If you are happy to leave your rifle sitting (level - lest the darn stuff runs out and soils everything!) for 12-24 hours, then it may work for you. But if you come home from the range and want to get your guns cleaned and put away within a relatively short period of time, a good scrubbing with RemClean or MB will give you more immediate results.

All the best in your quest for some Wipeout.

- mike

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Originally posted by 30ott6:
Great results New Guy! I have a can of Wipe Out but have not used it yet. When you are shooting the stuff in the barrel/s what did you do to plug the other end?

John

John, it is best applied with a straw from McDonald's or some other vehicle, with which you can get it past the chamber and into the bore. Then you carefully give it a couple of short blasts, while watching the muzzle for the foam to appear. Up there, you hold a piece of cloth or disposable papertowel ready to clean off the inevitable mess (wear gloves). Once the foam settles down, you leave the gun level, but with some setup to catch any drips that might result.
- mike

I bought a CZ barrelled action iin 416 Rigby and then put a MacMillan stock on it before firing it. Given that it had probably only been fired at the factory and then fired for proofing I was surprised how dirty the barrel was and scrubbed with traditional methods (Dewey rods and brushes with Shooters Choice bore solvent) before taking my first few shots. I then tried Wipe-Out which a friend brought to me from the USA. The amount of black and blue that came out amazed me. It took 4 overnights to get it down to bare metal and I brushed a couple of times between Wipe-Out sessions. This is all fine and great but it gets one addicted to the "mirror clean" finish and may be unnecessary except for the fanatic. If you can't stand the sight of a copper streak then it is indeed great stuff. But a hairline trace of copper in a groove at the muzzle isn't really "fouling" and you use up a lot of Wipe-Out just to get it out.

Marrakai
It is common practice for some European double rifle makers to leave the regulating wedge "sticking out".

New Guy,
I just put a trash can under the bore to catch the juice and patches, but I clean in a shop..Your approach would be nice in a house.

Remember not to use bronze brushes or tips or you will never get a clean patch, the stuff will be working on the bronze...

I have used the wipeout accelerator with wipeout it is great stuff! I have used wipe out for years and stock it in our store. It is a bit hard on wood finishes but with a little practice that can be fixed

Aleko

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Originally posted by 30ott6:
Great results New Guy! I have a can of Wipe Out but have not used it yet. When you are shooting the stuff in the barrel/s what did you do to plug the other end?
John

John - Nothing really, I put my finger over one end and shoot it full... a little usually runs out of both ends, and I wipe that off.

In my bolt guns, however, I stick a rag in the chamber. That keeps it from flowing back into the action/magazine.

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New Guy: my results have been somewhat of a disappointment with Wipe Out. Although my patches come out exactly like yours, I find myself having to apply three and four treatments after shooting as little as 9 rounds per rifle. I try to place the rifle level on the gun cradle but I notice you seem to angle your barrels down in order for the stuff to dribble out. Could this be what I/m doing wrong? jorge

Jorge - Have you ever really gotten the barrel clean with wipe out? I've found that if the gun has never had wipe out used in it before, that several applications (6-8) are required to get it back to bare metal.

You've probably got "layers" of fouling, i.e.: copper fouling, over powder fouling, over copper, etc...

When I use it on a gun for the first time, I have similar results as yours, but I keep applying it until the patches came out perfectly white. Thereafter, a single application removes the copper as you see above.

I doubt the angle at which it rests has much to do with your results.

When I use it, I leave the bolt in and closed and apply from the muzzle. I give it 3 short bursts and some backs out the muzzle and a small amount comes out the vent at the chamber. I wipe these off. This seems to work great. Is there some reason not to do it this way?

I personally try not to get the foam into the chamber. But I guess if you clean and oil the chamber afterwards, then it is not a problem.

If you really want to be sure to keep the foam out of the chamber, Sinclair sells chamber plugs with o-rings - but they are kind'a pricey.
- mike

Interesting to see all the different methods of application.

I inject from the muzzle, and wearing a rubber glove on my left hand, I hold a finger in the chamber. I leave a little bit of room for air flow, but when I feel the foam at my finger tip I close that end off with my finger and release the spray can from the muzzle. The excess backs out the muzzle, and very little foam makes it into the chamber.

Surgical tubing would probably be tidier, but my method works pretty good.

Cheers,
Canuck

My local hardware store has the clear surgical tubing in 1/8" diameter increments for pennies a foot. I buy several sizes to fit all my bores. The tubing does harden with time and temperature, when it does I toss that 5 inch piece and cut off a new one. All but the largest will fit the nozzle tightly enough to prevent leakage and the soft material seals in the chamber neck to prevent any from coming back into the action. I just set the can on a block with the tube in the chamber after application and leave it till I'm ready to patch out.
I have a few guns that foul terribly and on them I've gone to applying the foam with the rifle alternatly upside down or on its side as I think that where the liquid pools tends to clean up a little faster. A warm room helps also.

You can place a bore guide in the chamber with solvent port facing up.

Plug the end of the bore guide with a paper towel.

Squirt the wipeout in the barrel in short bursts.

Wait a couple of seconds after each burst.

When you see the foam start to emerge from the solvent port, your done.

You can later pull the plug on the bore guide and then run the rod with patch through.

I use a bore guide but it seemed that a bit always came out around the cone on the front of the can and dribbled on my gunstocks. That is fine on a beater but not on some of my better guns. I took a large cleaning patch and folded it twice and cut out the middle corner with a pocket knife. Unfolded it, Layed it over the end of the bore guide. Push firm against the bore guide while filling the barrel. No more dribbles. I too have my cleaning bench situated with a trash can at the end and refuse of all types drop into it without effort.

NG: YEs I did indeed take it down to bare metal. I guess maybe my rifles just foul more thna most. jorge

I use the same method as SBT. The funnel-shaped dispenser on the can is for fitting over the muzzle. I do check after a few minutes to wipe off any that may ooze out from around the bolt,etc., as, yes, it is hard on a wood finish.

Dhunter,

Why not plug the end of the bore guide and dispense the wipeout into the muzzle?

This allows the excess to rise up and out the solvent port.

If you dispense in short bursts, you can keep the foam from overflowing the bore guide.

milfoam in Finland makes the breakfree and outer's and forrest foaming bore cleaners, I would be surprised if they did not make wipe-out too.

Apparently the other foaming type cleaners all have ammonia in them. Wipe Out does not.

For those of you who aren't following Wipe Out frustration in the Euro Hunting category, I just spoke with the manufacturer and was told that they have no problem shipping by air to Europe and will gladly take your orders. My experience with the web site provided e-mail address wasn't positive so I got another e-mail address for those who want to give it a try: tppaco@aol.com

Soda that will work fine if you have no muzzle brake. Several of my rifles do. Injecting it from the muzzle with a brake would me a real mess as well as an excercise in waste and frustration trying to get a barrel full. My other rifles could be done that way but I like to use one system for all my rifles. Good hunting.