A friend is looking at a Bauska safari rifle. The barrel is marked "470 Royal". Does anyone know what that is?

Found this: 470 Royal

Looks like "royal" is a model designation, but caliber is .470 NE?

Royal as it relates to Holland and Hollland is the London firm's in house built back action side lock. The lock is hand detachable.

A Holland and Holland Royal can be any caliber you can pay for from 240 Holland and Holland to 700. I have heard of one or two in22 Hornet.

When firms had there own cartridges Holland and Holland brought the Royal in 500/465 when 450 was banned in India and competed with the Lang 470. Holland and Holland also had the 500/450 that was their answer to the 450 NE Rigby.

With out seeing pics I cannot tell you if your friend has found a Holland and Holland Royal. Call Holland and Holland with the serial number would be what I would do.

This one?
http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100905577

Maybe a Bauska .470 wiltcat based on .460 Weatherby necked up? Not like Bass Pro Shop is likely to know.

Interesting; no data, but a picture.
Certainly appears to be a .505 Gibbs necked to .470

http://www.cartridgecollector.net/470-royal

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Originally posted by Redstone:
This one?
http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100905577

Maybe a Bauska .470 wiltcat based on .460 Weatherby necked up? Not like Bass Pro Shop is likely to know.

.475/.505 Gibbs sounds right.

buckstix needs to buy that Les Bauska rifle if Biebs doesn't.
BBK-02 like my 470 Mbogo,
but gotta say that one is prettier than mine.
Les Bauska was John Buhmiller's rattlesnake wrangler for a time.
They turned them loose in the shop at night as a security system.
Somebody had to round them up in the morning ...


Rip
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Yes, that's the one. I figured it had to be a 460 Wby, 416 Rigby, 505 Gibbs, or 458 Win necked to .474. I don't see anything on it anywhere.

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Originally posted by RIP:

buckstix needs to buy that Les Bauska rifle if Biebs doesn't.

I actually did look at this one, but I didn't like the damage. Its hard to see in the pictures, but I think the toe was split and repaired.

"Expertly repaired," but they left a chunk out of the toe of the recoil pad.

13 pounds empty, with 26 inch barrel, plus muzzle brake, and 14.5" LOP.
Much more powerful and probably more shootable than a 9.5 pound .475 A&M.
Made by Les Bauska, a Buhmiller apprentice in Kalispell.
It is tempting ...

Rip
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I have actually handled this rifle as it is local to me. You are correct, they do not know what a 470 royal is, much less who Les Bauska was. In any event, it is a beast at 13 lbs. More boom than I am looking for!

Or was it Jack Bauska that developed the BBK action? My history is a little spotty here. Nevertheless, Bass Pro doesn't know the difference.

470 royale is the .475/505 gibbs

les did "invent" the BBK action -

13# AND a muzzle brake? good grief

nice work on the stock, but talk about a sow's ear as part of a silk purse - these actions were rough as a cob -- and sloppy --- "Steve" who used to work for Les (and made off with my 550 tooling) wasn't the first, or last, to say so.

looks rust blued, sorta kinda .. not my favorite piece in the big bore game, but fairly nice checkering