Well as I put in a thread yesterday, I have a new .416 Taylor. I loaded some shells for it last night and I would like some one, with a little more experience, to give their oppinion of my start load. I pooled as many sources of data as I could and found one load using IMR 3031. The Arthur of this data used between 62gr. and 68gr. with a 400 gr. bullet. His best accuracy came from 65gr. I started at 64gr. but this is a very compressed load with the bullets seated about a 1/16" away from the crimp groove. Is this something to worry about?

The wisdom is that crimping boosts the velocity. I don't know as I have never compared any rounds with and without.

All my 416 bullets stick out beyound the cannalure. It is not a problem.

The only concern would be if the recoil would let the bullet get shoved back into the case from hitting the front of the magazine, but in compressed loads, the bullet has no where to go.

riverman,

After charging the case with powder, gently(!) tap the side of the case several times to help settle the kernels.
This will reduce the amount of compression needed to seat your bullets.

George

With some powders I find vibrating can really reduce the volume taken up by the powders. It's not rocket science: I take the case with powder and hold it against the top of my case tumbler (bowl removed of course) for about 10 to 20 seconds. With some ball powders the space gained is significant.

Or get a 6"drop tube for your powder measure.

Thanks Guys,

I am going to shoot this thing Sunday and see how she does. I am going to get me some RL15 to try as well. Another thing I want to try is some cast bullets. If my gun will shoot them I should be able to shoot more for less money. Should be fun trying anyway.

..................I tried 3031 in my Taylor and got alot of pressure before I got the velocity I needed.................IMR 4320 was the best powder I found for it ..........RL 15 is kind of bulky in comparison .....My max load with 400 gr bullets was 71 gr IMR 4320 with a Federal 215 primer I later backed that down to 70 grains ... From the short barrels on my 2 different rifles I got 2300 fps ..and reliable operation ........I really liked the 350 gr Barnes X bullet alot better,,,,, 73.5 -74 grains of IMR 4320 and that bullet gave 2450 fps and was my all time favorite 416 Taylor load....................The best way I,ve found to settle powder in the case is a BRAUN cordless electric tooth brush or some other controllable vibrating device , like a hair clipper , shaver ect, ect,..............,.,.,.,.,just hold your finger over the mouth of the case and there you go,, buzz buzz ..You can gain close to 10% volume that way with some powders .....Makes for alot more consistent velocities also ...........I tried IMR 4064 but didn,t get the velocities I was after ,,,it,s very similar to 4320 but different enough in such a small case that it makes quite a difference ...........The 416 Taylor is somewhat common around here and it has a better reputation for knocking brown bear down and keeping them there than the 375 H&H ......But it shoots almost as flat and doesn,t recoil any more ...............I,ve killed a bunch of stuff with the Taylor and it is a great round .......................Thats all I know about the 416 Taylor ....good luck .,

all ive loaded for my .416 taylor so far have been 350 gr cast boolits that several AR posters gave me... my best have been 70gr of RL15.. this chrono'd at 2258-2265 out of a 20" barrel...i've tried imr4320 66-69gr, but i think the RL15 will be better....

I found IMR 4064 the best in my taylor.

Looks like I have lots of work do. I have all of those powders mentioned except RL 15. I had planned to get some anyway. Each one of these loads are mentioned in the various data sheets I have found, so I probably won't be able to sleep untill I have tryed them all. jimatcat, I am really interested in shooting some cast boolits. I think that will be the cheapest way to practice and have lots of fun in the process. I found a guy that will sell 250 for $50. If I find that my rifle likes cast then I might try to find a mold and start casting. That will open up a whole new world for me. Oh boy, another hobby, I bet my wife is just dying to hear this.