Hi everybody!!!

After bedding, crossbolting ect. and finding a good load with 500gr Woodleigh solid at 2250fps for my .458 Lott, I´m

now searching for the best quick release mount for the cz dovetail bases. My gunsmith recommended an EAW. I don`t like this idea and it`s

expensive, too. After reading the Qick release mounts posts on this forum I searched for Leupold QRW because I like the look of the

horizontal splitting of the rings. Nothing for cz 550. After a little search I found Warne rings in a shop but no Talley importer

here. What you think: It´s worth to ship Talleys from the US and wait some weeks or just buy the Warne in my place? What I heard and read

the Talleys have a better reputation for big bores and most cz tuning gunsmiths use the talleys. By the way is it neccessary to glue ring

and scope? What worked for your Bruno?

I got Talleys om my .416 Rigby CZ 550 and Warnes on my .375 Wby ZKK 602. Basically I shot them hot and kept tightening the screws on a hot summer day. Haven't touched them since other than to take off and put back on the rifle.

Either the Talley or the Warne are fine on the CZ 550 Magnum.

However, they are vertically split and more "fussy" for installation.

The latest standard CZ rings are getting prettier in finish. They are as good or better than Talley or Warne
for strength and return to zero, if you torque the base screws to consistent inch-pounds when you replace them: 30 to 40 inch-pounds.
You cannot be so consistent with warne or talley as you can be with the CZ rings.

If you replace the slotted-head screw on the CZ rings with the proper metric automotive screw,
which is available with a stainless or blackened finish,
you will be able to QD the rings with a 5mm hex head wrench from your pocket.

That screw spec is M6-1.0x25mm Socket Cap Screw Class 12.9.

Gluing the scope into the rings is a good idea with the big bores.
I use clear or black silicone sealant.
"Permatex Clear RTV Silicone Adhesive, Made For The Professional" was the last tube picked up at the automotive parts place.

Smear a small dab inside each ring half using the tip of your index finger, after you have degreased the ring and the scope tube.

Then assemble the rings around the scope and mount it to the rifle.
The silicone sealant will not solidify until after you have had time to properly align and adjust everything in place on the rifle.

When you do the final tightening of the ring screws (15 to 20 inch-pounds), any excess silicone will be extruded out of the rings.
This can be peeled away cleanly after it drys, using your fingernails or a wooden toothpick, etc.,
or wiped off while still wet.
Gun Scrubber or other solvent may be used to clean up any stray silicone, wet or dry.
The silicone will be invisible, and only microns thick between scope and rings.

The horizontally split CZ rings are much less fussy.

You may use the silicone in the bottom half only or both top and bottom of rings.

It certainly helps lock the scope in place, better than "rosin" and such dry powders.

It also seals out any penetrating oils, solvents, or moisture from getting between the scope and rings.
It is insurance against foul weather and gun cleaning misadventures.

The Warne comes in low, medium and high. Talley offers only one height for cz 550 rifles? Is this correct?

Warne does not make the low for CZ anymore, last time I checked.
I have one set of those, and the Leupold 2.5X scope with its tiny ocular bell is the only scope I have that can be used with them.
You cannot work the bolt of the action because the bolt handle hits the scope if the ocular bell is any larger.
Get medium Warne.
IIRC, the Talley offering is a medium also.

Thanks RIP. Had some problems with cz rings in the past on another 550 in .300win... probably with the old ones and I´m not sure about the

availibility of this screw you mentioned. Only being a backyard gunsmith I want to go for a serial mount like Warne/ Talley / or

something else proved. On my other cz I put fixed EAW mounts. For the Lott I need something one can put on and off for hunting.

Hello Guav,

Just a couple of weeks ago I bought a set of Talley quick detachable rings for a friends CZ550. It turned out he could not use them, because his scope tube was too short and he had to use a German made MAK bridge mount. If you would like, you could have the Talleys at my own cost of 105€ plus shipping from Bonn. They appear well designed, well made and are new in the box.

If you would prefer to order some on your own, I can put you in touch with a company that will send them from the US.

Hi JV,

cool, thanks for your offer. Your Talleys rings are 1" or 30mm tubes? I didn`t buy a scope yet. Have to decide which one: Leupold 2,5-8 x36

with 1"tube or one of the new Swarovski Z6 with 30mm tube. Which scope your friend wanted to mount?

When I´m sure, I will send you a privat message.

The rings I have here are 1". My friend bought a Leupold VXII 3-9x50 with a tube length of 5", which was too short for standard two piece mounts. The 2.5-8x36 might also be too short at 5.1". A 3-9x40 at 5.6" should work. So make sure you find out the minimum length for the rifle before you buy a scope.

With the bridge mount we ended up using of course you can use any scope you want. However, it is almost three times the cost of the Talleys and, in my opinion, neither as strong nor as elegant.

I used weaver mounts and rings on my CZ 550 458 Lott. I also used that blue colored locktight on the screws. On some of my rifles I've used Leopole mounts and rings with Blue locktight on the screws. I haven't had any problems with my choise of mounts.

All,
The Leupold 1.75x-6xE has barely enough tube length to allow use of the Talley 1" rings.
The "E" is for "Extended tube length" I reckon.
Indeed, the 2.5x-8x Leupold was too short.
Either scope is as good as it gets.
Of course the 1.5x-5x 1" or 30mm will work well for a big bore too.
It does not have the objective bell to get in the way of the front ring so it will fit the longest action.
The 2.5 X will work too, but requires the front ring to be too close to the objective lens and "golden ring"
for comfort, but I do it anyway and have not cracked an objective lens yet,
through careful torquing of the screws, and use of the silicone adhesive,
for sure grip.

jro45 must have drilled and tapped the CZ 550 to use Weaver style bases.
I have done that too, to use QRW and Badger rings for the 34mm-tubed Schmidt & Bender scopes.

I'll post pics of all these mounts, as well as the standard CZ with some home-rigged QRW levers on them.

JV, very good advice. Never spent one thought about this issue. As you know, normally there are no problems regarding tube length with our

big night scopes. You saved me from burning some money. I will take a closer look for the Swarovski Z6.

jr045, how you use weaver bases on the CZ dovetails?

RIP thanks. Our messages crossed. I would really appreciate to see some photos.

Talley Medium, 1.75x-6xE Leupold





Warne Low (no longer made), 2.5x Leupold





Badger rings, steel Weaver base, 4x-16X S&B with 34 mm tube





CZ rings, socket head screw replacement, 2.5x-8x Leupold, with front ring back as faras it will go, flush with ejection port:







CZ rings again, with 2.5x-8x Leupold, front ring as far forward as possible, works with this scope again:





CZ rings with homemade levers using the socket head screw and Leupold QRW levers, timed just right. The levers are tapped out for the screw threads, then timed just right and locked with epoxy, leaving clean threads exposed to screw into the CZ ring. No adjustment of relative lever position possible after it sets, but the unit unscrews to remove the scope.





CZ 30mm rings and 2.5x-10x "Eurolux" scope:





Zeiss Jena QD mount integral to scope, 4x scope, windage adjustment is in the front part of the mount, two dials on top of scope are for elevation and focus. German post reticle. This is a BRNO ZKK 602, but it takes the same rings as a CZ 550 Magnum:





Of course the best mounts possible on a CZ would be German claw mounts, hmm?

I prefer the levers on the opposide than the bolt knob of the rifle, but with either Warne or Talley you are stuck with them on the same side as the bolt knob.

I want to put in my Ceska 550 Magnum of 375 H&H Magnum a Leupold V-II 1-4x20 scope. This rifle is for hunt wild hogs in raids. What do you think about my choice? The mounts I going to put are the ceska 550.

Oscar.

Thanks for your effort RIP. Really nice collection!! Your customized cz rings look great. The 2,5- 8 leupold is still my favourite, but I
will try to find a 1,75- 6 E leupold with talleys or go for a 1,5x 5x20 and warnes. I would also prefer the levers on left side(opposite from bolt). Nothin`s perfet.

quote:

Of course the best mounts possible on a CZ would be German claw mounts, hmm?

I´m not the biggest fan of German Claw mounts. Quite expensive too . For nice breakdowns they are a good choice. For a bolt IMO not the best solution. A friend has a 40 year old 7x57 cz with a quite similar zeiss jena. This one has only one dial on the top for elevation. The side change is done by support screws on the rail of the back base. It´s mounted with a Suhl claw mount: front claw and ring around objective. This gun is around 40 years old. Not many options at these days. It´s still working and the gun is a shooter but my friend hate to change something on the support screws.

I have Talleys and a Leupold 1.5x5 on my 416 and the combo works great. Levers are built to be on same side as bolt because of notch in left side of rear receiver. You could replace the levers with screw attachment. It is slow to remove requiring a torx socket wrench but eliminates the possibility of catching a lever with your sleeve. I believe Talley shows international stocking dealers on their web site.

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Originally posted by ovny:
I want to put in my Ceska 550 Magnum of 375 H&H Magnum a Leupold V-II 1-4x20 scope. This rifle is for hunt wild hogs in raids. What do you think about my choice? The mounts I going to put are the ceska 550.

Oscar.

Oscar,
That is a good setup. I have the same thing on a
CZ 404 Jeffery, not shown, but I have used up more than enough bandwidth for illustration purposes.

Both 1x-4x Vari-X II scope and the 1.5x-5x Vari-X III are perfect with medium height Warne or Talley, and of course the standard CZ rings, on any CZ 550 Magnum.

Guav,
Welcome, and thanks for the approval of the "customized" CZ rings. You can still use the hex head wrench for proper torquing, or use your fingers for "finger tight."
For levers located on the left side of the action, keep the levers pointed downward, and recoil forces will keep them tight.

With the Talley and Warne, you are stuck with the levers on the right side of the action, and must keep the levers pointed upward. Recoil forces will keep them tight that way, and there is no way that they can interfere with working the bolt or ejecting an empty.

I have only one Waffen Frankonia M98 30-06 with German claw mounts. I bought it from a gunsmith who acquired it from a guy who brought it back from Germany when he was a soldier ... about 40 years ago. The 4X scope of Waffen Frankonia brand was still zeroed 1.5" high at 100 yards with my 180-grain handload on my first trip to the range with that rifle. It has a walnut stock that was properly glass bedded, and seems to have held zero for 40-plus years.
And that was after I had removed and replaced the scope. I could do nothing to zero it better.

quote:

Oscar,
That is a good setup. I have the same thing on a
CZ 404 Jeffery, not shown, but I have used up more than enough bandwidth for illustration purposes.

Both 1x-4x Vari-X II scope and the 1.5x-5x Vari-X III are perfect with medium height Warne or Talley, and of course the standard CZ rings, on any CZ 550 Magnum.

Guav,
Welcome, and thanks for the approval of the "customized" CZ rings. You can still use the hex head wrench for proper torquing, or use your fingers for "finger tight."
For levers located on the left side of the action, keep the levers pointed downward, and recoil forces will keep them tight.

With the Talley and Warne, you are stuck with the levers on the right side of the action, and must keep the levers pointed upward. Recoil forces will keep them tight that way, and there is no way that they can interfere with working the bolt or ejecting an empty.

I have only one Waffen Frankonia M98 30-06 with German claw mounts. I bought it from a gunsmith who acquired it from a guy who brought it back from Germany when he was a soldier ... about 40 years ago. The 4X scope of Waffen Frankonia brand was still zeroed 1.5" high at 100 yards with my 180-grain handload on my first trip to the range with that rifle. It has a walnut stock that was properly glass bedded, and seems to have held zero for 40-plus years.
And that was after I had removed and replaced the scope. I could do nothing to zero it better

Thank you for your answer, but I must wait until I buy my Ceska 550 of 458 Lott jejeje.

Oscar.