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neat!?!? interesting at least, 45/70bolt

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12 April 2005, 02:16
jeffeosso
neat!?!? interesting at least, 45/70bolt
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000456


not mine, but looks odd

wonder if it would work with a 50/70 or 50/90

jeffe


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12 April 2005, 02:42
PC
Each to there own I suppose !!
12 April 2005, 05:06
Tex21
That's an interesting link. Thanks Jeffe.

Jason


Jason

"Chance favors the prepared mind."
12 April 2005, 06:57
500grains


Frankly I cannot think of anything useful that can be done with a French rifle, so making it into a 45-70 is probably one of the better options.
12 April 2005, 07:43
tiggertate
Does anyone know if the Gibbs Rifle Company's Enfield 45-70 conversions ended up worth a damn?


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12 April 2005, 07:53
Marc_Stokeld
and it is "this far" from a .458 WIn mag!!! He does get an "A" for creativity though
12 April 2005, 07:54
jeffeosso
hey,
i found a pic of a french rifle in it's native pose




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12 April 2005, 08:27
jeffeosso
and one in it's urban setting




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476AR,
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12 April 2005, 09:05
500grains
Amazing results caqn be achieved when such a rifle is put into play.



The rifle's owner:


12 April 2005, 22:35
Robgunbuilder
Ze French Rifle is never to be fired! It simply must be dropped as part of the French ART of Surrender! Firing an American cartridge in one is a sure path to disaster.-Rob


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13 April 2005, 09:02
Tex21
That may be the reason he got a good deal on the MAS...Never fired and only dropped once! roflmao


Jason

"Chance favors the prepared mind."
13 April 2005, 18:11
deciple-of-keith
If I ever choose to take up russin ruolet! It will be with one of those babies ! Above the entrance to the French Foreign legion's recruiting centre is the slogan "abandon hope ye who enter here"(cause they used to use mas 36s) jump


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13 April 2005, 19:57
GonHuntin
I always wondered why the MAS 36 doesn't have a safety......then it hit me......you don't need to load a rifle to surrender and you don't need a safety if the rifle isn't loaded!
14 April 2005, 03:07
Robgunbuilder
The French are very practical people. Ze weopon is only for show! When in danger drop it, run like hell and above all CAPITULATE! you can always deceide which side is winning later and side with them. Perhaps they will ever re-arm you with decent weopons! Zat is ze way it is done in France! Wala!-Rob


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14 April 2005, 07:32
NitroX
An interesting thing to do to a MAS36.


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14 April 2005, 10:34
KentuckyMountainMan
I'd like to find a cheap milsurp that could be chambered for a 50/110.
14 April 2005, 12:19
deciple-of-keith
quote:

I'd like to find a cheap milsurp that could be chambered for a 50/110


THE ANSWER is right there in print a Mas 36 (get ya mther in law to test fire it)But seriously A simeese mauser in 45-70 might be some where to start or maybe a Pat17 enfield?


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14 April 2005, 15:17
NitroX
Was the French military round rimmed or rimless? ie the one the MAS36 was originally chambered for.

Does the MAS36 have a detachable magazine?

Keith

Those Siamese Mausers were once common but I haven't seen one for ages. They used to be $100 but like many a dill never bought one. Seen any recently?


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14 April 2005, 16:11
deciple-of-keith
?

Keith

Those Siamese Mausers were once common but I haven't seen one for ages. They used to be $100 but like many a dill never bought one. Seen any recently?

NITRO have'nt seen any in years.Last time I saw one was in Lawrance Ordnance in Sydney .Hell that was some years back!Also if memory serves me right the French service cart was a rimless 8mm 0r 7.5 mm but I could be wrong.Ps Thinkin of comin down your neck of the woods this season. aMate just out of Handorf has a Fox problem he wants me to take a look at Big Grin


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14 April 2005, 16:31
tiggertate
I saw a pretty nice one in Houston with the dust cover for $395.00 last year.


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14 April 2005, 16:44
jeffeosso
okay, this may eb heresy, but what about a mas 405... heh heh heh...

sorry rob

i guess i would have to wear a beret with my kilt!!

and then kick my own ass

jeffe


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14 April 2005, 19:05
deciple-of-keith
Jeffe hang your head in shame sofa


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14 April 2005, 20:14
Scota4570
Might be an interesting project. Convert to 45-70. Fix that stupid bolt handle. Move the trigger back where it belongs. Put a receiver sight on it. Make a decent looking butstock. Make a forend like a Savage '99. Might not be all together horrible.
14 April 2005, 20:54
Tex21
If anyone has a copy of "Bolt Action Rifles" by de Hass and van Zwoll, you might read up on the MAS and see what's said about them. From what I read, it didn't look there was too terribly much you could do with one.

The only MAS I've ever been near hangs over my barber's front door. Occassionally, when the weather is nice, he'll take it down and use it prop the door open... It serves admirably in that position.


Jason

"Chance favors the prepared mind."
14 April 2005, 21:07
jeffeosso
okay,
who's got one in hiding somewhere?

I'll take the shame from you, and even pay shipping

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
14 April 2005, 22:20
fla3006
Jeffe, that's a pretty cool website, particularly the threads on gunsmithing, wish I knew more about machining, most of what I can do is with a hand file.


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18 April 2005, 12:17
deciple-of-keith
okay,
who's got one in hiding somewhere?

I'll take the shame from you, and even pay shipping
OK! I CONFESS IVE CORNERD THE MARKET ON EM nut.I LOVE EM!!!!!!!!I SAY THEIR THE GREATEST BOLT ACTION EVER BUILT!!!!!!!!!(Hey I also confess to enjoing Slaming my Genitalia in car doors & being on a coctail of Valium& Prozac.Sometimes if I've been good Matron lets me stay up until 9pm!) sofa


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18 April 2005, 16:20
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by deciple-of-keith:
OK! I CONFESS IVE CORNERD THE MARKET ON EM nut.I LOVE EM!!!!!!!!I SAY THEIR THE GREATEST BOLT ACTION EVER BUILT!!!!!!!!!(Hey I also confess to enjoing Slaming my Genitalia in car doors & being on a coctail of Valium& Prozac.Sometimes if I've been good Matron lets me stay up until 9pm!) sofa



huh? jump


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
19 April 2005, 12:07
Old Elk Hunter
And I thought Siamese Mausers were common. I bought one cheap and have passed on two complete rifles in the last three months. I was planning on barreling mine for 444 Marlin just for grins. If someone really wants one I can scour the gunshows and post the results here. May take a few months, but what the heck, I go to the shows anyway.


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19 April 2005, 15:00
deciple-of-keith
quote:
And I thought Siamese Mausers were common. I bought one cheap and have passed on two complete rifles


Unfortainatly OEH. our selection of dealersof the finer things in life (firearms)Is some what limited in Auz it would seem that 2 buy backs from the Gov to rid Auz of illegal firearms by buying & bannig certain types of rife& Handguns.Has enticed,many dealers to take the money the Gov offered &run!Strange thing is that firearm offences are still being commited with illegal firearms bewildered


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