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From reviewing some of the archived threads here it appears that the Ruger No.1, in big bore calibers, seems to be more punishing than some other rifles. What is it about the No.1 rifle that makes recoil greater? Is it greater stock drop, weight, or something else that seems to cause this? Thanks.
 
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The No.1 is “relatively†light for caliber in the 416 and up class. The No.1 is stout, but it does not have the mass & weight of a bolt action. The recoil pad sucks too, but so does the recoil pad on all Ruger rifles…..

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Mike,

My Ruger #1 is a tropical model chambered in 458 win mag and it actually weighs just a bit more than my Win 70 in the same chambering.

When shooting the two side by side at the range with the same ammo,there's a very noticable difference as the ruger seems to come back harder.It may be stock fit but likely is the terrible recoil pad that Matt mentioned.
 
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i shoot a #1 tropical .458 win mag...with a millet electronic 1x scope....i use a galco slip-on recoilpad... it makes the length of pull just right....and helps with the recoil also...


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I agree the No. 1 seems a little less friendly to my cheek and shoulder than a similar-weight bolt gun. In the heavier caliber, I wish Ruger made the barrels two inches longer to hang just a bit more weight out front, as this design feels like a Model 94 anyway in terms of overall length. And two more inches of barrel would goose velocities a hair. On a .416 Rigby, switching to a Decelerator recoil pad made a real difference.


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My #1 Rigby kicks like a mule. It has the characteristic sucky pad on it.


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My Ruger #1 in 7mmRemMag seems to kick as much as my .375 H&H Rem 700! And I've shot them on the same days so it isn't how I felt at a particular time. Don't quite know why this is since the #1 has a pretty straight stock on it and an Old English Decelerator pad.


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I only shot my brother's .416 Rigby #1 twice but what I noticed was that recoil against the cheek seems sharper than anything else I've ever shot. Only other real big-bore I've shot is my .375 H&H Encore (about 8 lbs). Both rifles have LimbSaver pads on them. I don't recall any pain in my shoulder after shooting the #1, but I DID flinch on the second shot because of the way the stock impacted my face. Possibly poor form on my part, but I don't know when I'll have a chance to shoot it again.


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It is nice to shoot in a .375, maybe a bit light in a .416 or Lott.


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I think it must be related somehow to the short overall length, since it is 4" shorter than a comparable length barrel on a bolt action.

Also the horrible buttpad if not replaced or supplemented with a slip-on pad.

Overall weight and stock shape is good. They are not light.

Some of the drama here may come from memories of max 45-70 loads in the similar, but lighter No.3 Ruger?

I have a Ruger No.1 in 500A2 that has a barrel that is 29" long with its muzzle break installed, as always. Wink
 
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I would say it is related to the shorter length combined with more of the weight being centrally located vs a similar weight bolt action. These two factors give it a considerably smaller moment of inertia. Which allows it to try and rotate up and back easier than a similar weight bolt gun. Which gives it more of the cheek slapping type recoil.

Haven't done it, but recoil reducer weights in the very end of the stock and some sort of barrel weight out on the end should fix the problem with not so much weight added. The weight at each end would increase the intertia against rotating so easily.
 
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I haven't noticed the #1's being terrible on recoil. Having said that my #1 .300 winchester has a decelerator pad on it and my loads arn't real hot.
My #1 .375 H&H has the ruger pad on it but still not that bad. The loads on the .375 arn't real hot ether and I'm using a 270 gr. bullet so maybe thats the differance.


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I would say it is related to the shorter length combined with more of the weight being centrally located vs a similar weight bolt action. These two factors give it a considerably smaller moment of inertia. Which allows it to try and rotate up and back easier than a similar weight bolt gun. Which gives it more of the cheek slapping type recoil.

Haven't done it, but recoil reducer weights in the very end of the stock and some sort of barrel weight out on the end should fix the problem with not so much weight added. The weight at each end would increase the intertia against rotating so easily.


That must be it. thumb

However, putting weight in the forearm might rip it off its hanger. Custom heavy barrel (long and fat) and extra weight in the butt to balance would be better.

My 500A2 Ruger No.1 has a straight taper barrel to 1.000" diameter at the 27" point, then screw on muzzle brake. thumb
 
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BTW, I mean the end of the stock like next to your shoulder. See weight both at the end of the barrel and on the other end will resist rotation under recoil. What matters is the distance from the CG or center of mass of the rifle. Though admittedly with the support of the shoulder the barrel end might make a bit more difference.

Of course my favorite characteristic of the #1 is the balance with the center seeming to be right between your hands.
 
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I have shot two Ruger #1s, both in 458 Lott with full house loads. Ain't fun, even with a Pach/Decel pad.

With my reduced plinking load(405gr@2112fps) they were fun to shoot. I think that this is the top end of enjoyable shooting in a #1.(at least for me) The 450-400 is very close to my plinking load, and would be my choice if I ever got a #1.


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