Seem really reasonable at ~$2500.00.

Regardless the more classic big bores at pseudo affordable prices the better. They will keep ammo and components available.

I read up on them . It seems they are crf and the stuff I read said the action has a " mechanical ejector. Not sure what that means . Whether it's a fixed blade or a plunger.
But, they look like nice rifles. And the price is good.

These rifles had some big ejection problems.

Google Sako 85 ejection issues.

Maybe they resolved the issues,...I'm not sure.

Does anyone actually have one in stock?

Euro optic did not to long ago......

Here is a screen grab of the bolt face


In John Zent's short write up online at American Rifleman he points out that, " Controlled-round feed capability has made the 85 a real up-and-comer. It doesn't clamp on as soon as the case exits the magazine in the way of the Mauser 98 and full-length-claw clones like the Winchester M70 and Kimber 84/8400 series, and for some, that's the tipping point".

I see a need for new designations....

PF = push feed
CRF = controlled round feed
PCRF = pseudo controlled round feed

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Originally posted by AFRICAN LEADWOOD:
I see a need for new designations....

PF = push feed
CRF = controlled round feed
PCRF = pseudo controlled round feed

Didn't Winchester do something similar with their WSSM 70's?

ah so here is a question:
What actions are deemed CRF and which are PCRF ? and why ?

Specifically is a Sako 85 CRF or PCRF ?

FFemtRN5287,

Winchester had what they called Controlled Round Push Feed (CRPF). It was their pushfeed action with the lower lip of the bolt face milled away to allow the cartridge rim to slide up under the extractor during feeding. I have no idea how well it worked since not long after the New Haven plant folded.

The idea like many things gun related isn't really new. That's pretty much how a Marlin 336 and 1895 lever actions work. The cartridge is controlled by the extractor as the bolt picks it up off the carrier.

Ironically I once looked at my Winchester Coyote varmit rifle which is a pushfeed a few years before and thought of basically the same idea. I'm sure I'm obviously not the only one.

Ok so what is a Mauser CRF ? CRPF ? PCRF ?

I put it to you that all actions are push feeds! because they all push the round into the chamber.
So now one has to ask at what point in the cycle does the round become "controlled" or captured by the extractor ? is it early in the return to battery or late?

True push feeds in this context also captures the case but late in the bolting cycle when the extractor snaps over the case rim....... but i'm still puzzled by what is what ?