Yup, I got myself one of em on sale. Midway has em for $199 so I got one. We shall see how long it lasts on my 375 RUM. I got the 4MOA model. That's no biggie, I do not anticipate shooting anything over 50 feet away at least this year. My goal is to get as close as I can before I get em. I figger its time to put that 10x Super Sniper to good use on something where I actually NEED to calculate distance, bullet drop, and other stuff. But, I do have to say that Super Sniper sure did hold up to probably almost 500 shots, and no problems.

4 moa does not suit me, I might have to shoot the bugger in the eye if he is after me and thats about 1 MOA....

All my DGR will shoot an inch up to about 75 yards, Minute of grapefruit is not my idea of a good "thang"

I see your point on the 4MOA. I do know for a fact that my handloads shoot way better than 4MOA, so I have to experiment with having my bullet impact either to the top or bottom edge, or jsut leave it in the middle. I do not plan on taking shots longer than 50yd. But for the record, if I were to use this rifle for a DGR I would not have an aimpoint on it, let alone a 4MOA dot! Minute of grapefruit? nice!

gixxer
This is NE450No2. I have a "little" experience shooting "red dot" sights.

Sight in your rifle to hit the top of the dot at 100 yards, ie 2" high from the center of the dot.
Shoot the rifle at 200 yards, you should hit near the center of the dot.

Shoot the rifle at 300 yards. You should hit near the bottom of the dot.

That is a fairly interesting observation NE450. I will try that.

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Originally posted by gixxer:
I do not anticipate shooting anything over 50 feet away at least this year. My goal is to get as close as I can before I get em.

What am I missing here? Why have you bought a red dot sight for shooting 50 feet?

My firent just put an aimpoint on his 45/70 but with a 2moa dot and that site is amazing I want one now to he was pulling of some amazing running shots and they where quite precise for longer range work as well (say out to 150 yards.)

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Originally posted by gixxer:
I do not anticipate shooting anything over 50 feet away at least this year. My goal is to get as close as I can before I get em.

What am I missing here? Why have you bought a red dot sight for shooting 50 feet?

Why? Because it is cheaper than any quality short range scope, fixed or variable. Why not use the iron? Cause I lost the blade to the rear sight. I couldve saved money by only replacing the blade, but I always wanted an Aimpoint, and it was a deal. I know that I do not NEED this scope to shoot 50 feet, but like I said, the price was right. I got the scope today (man, shipping was fast this time) and the dot does not seem too bad as long as I keep the brightness down to a reasonable level. With it turned all the way up the dot gets almost "larger" as the scope fills with light all over. I am gonna mount and shoot it tomorrow.

gixxer
Did you get a chance to shoot the Aimpoint? If so how did you like it?

Just a thought here but, if the Aimpoint subtends 4 MOA, at 50' that would cover less than an inch. At 50 yards it would be 2", certainly good enough for DG, wouldn't you think?

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gixxer
Did you get a chance to shoot the Aimpoint? If so how did you like it?

I have not had the chance to shoot it yet. I am doing surgery to my stock right now. Adding weight back that I lost from losing the big scope, and adding an F990 to the butt. but, just from throwing up the rifle to the shoulder the dot does not look all that huge. One thing about the non magnification, the top of my front sight and cover is in my field of view. No biggie since the dot rides over it after boresighting, but I know its there. I should be ready to shoot this time next week. Then the real results on paper will be in.

New pad just installed, have to load some rounds. Plan to shoot Thurs afternoon. I dunno how some folks have a problem grinding their pad to fit after install. The 40 grit belt on my belt sander whacked the excess in no time! Cleaned up with 220grit on a T bar.

Over the years I've had a lot of experience with red dots on pistols, subguns, and ARs. Have used PDP 2s and 3s, Aimpoint and Aimpoint Comp, C-mores, and EoTechs.

The field of view allowed by these sights ranges from good to excellent (C-More and EoTech). Lack of sensitivity to the eye being off axis makes for good snap shooting and solves the problem for those that are left master eyed and right handed.

The 6-8 minute dot is strictly for speed on very close range targets. Works great for center of mass shots at a max of about 35 yards or so.

Going down to a 4 minute dot extends the range for aimed shooting (at some small cost in speed) to 50-60 yards.

The one minute dot works rather well and quickly to over 100 yards and (if bright enough) is very fast at shorter ranges.

I think I prefer the one minute dot on the EoTech best of all. I think they'd work fine for DG requiring very fast response.

I have used the EO-Tec on "mansized" targets to 300 yards with excellent results.

First chance I get I will try the Ziess Z point out to 300 yards. It has a 4 minute dot if I remember correctly.

I put an Eotech on a SPAS-12 shotgun. You know the really evil looking one from the late 80's( they were banned in 89 I think). Talk about EVIL and fast. I put 7- 1 oz brenneke slugs in a combat target at 50 yrds so fast 6 shells were in the air while the last was firing. Man I would not want to have anyone point that thing at me. Lightning fast and the Eotech wasn't reduced to rubble. I guess they can take the recoil pretty well.-Rob

Rob,

The SPAS is a POS (they really really are)! The Bennelli's are FAR superior, ever try one?

I bought the same sight when Midway was closing them out for 249, might buy another one now! I've had mine on this 9.3x62 CZ550 and it is faster than iron sights (for me) and mounted far enough forward that my peripheral vision is free and there is no chance of bolt obstruction; even with the overweight Warne QD rings the Aimpoint doesn't change the balance; also, the non- critical eye relief means I can get a better cheek weld on the stock which I couldn't do with even a low powered standard scope.

ScottS-The SPAS is not a POS ( it requires a brain to operate and maintain so I completely understand your position). Yes, I own a Benneli super 90 and I'm not impressed. Do you know what a M12 win trench gun is? Thats combat perfection. Ask anyone who ever cycled one in harms way. Unfortunately given that originals go for 5K and up its not fitting to mod them for a holosight. Trust me I know combat shotguns! The SPAS 12 is pretty cool in its own way.-Rob

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gixxer
Did you get a chance to shoot the Aimpoint? If so how did you like it?

I LOVE IT!!! it totally serves its purpose for anything within 100yd! Now I can start to learn to shoot with both eyes open for faster target acquisition. My 3 shot groups offhand at 50yd are almost touching. Also getting that F990 pad has turned my RUM into a pussycat! I just wish it did not take so long for the gun to cool off after shooting 3 shots.

RGB,

How did you mount the EoTech on the SPAS-12? Got one I'd like to try it on Seriously.

I also find that the good old 20" bbl, 8 rnd 3" 12 gauge military Mossberg ain't a half bad riot gun.

[How long do you reckon the above mentioned aimpoint would last on a .416 Rigby ??

That is a good question PC, I am interested to see how long it lasts on my rig. They say in the website "Capable of handling big bore recoil, this revolutionary sight is the favourite of Safari hunters.". We shall see.

Gixer,

my friend and I had Trascho Pro Points on our Marlin 45/70's and his went south after around 600 shots, I sold mine still working after 200 shots 5moa dot I found past 50 yards it covered to much.

He has since purchased an aimpoint comp ml3 with 2moa dot and has had 100 odd shots so far with no problems (400 gr at 1850 fps), that aimpoint is so good a friend and I have purchased one each to mount on our newly aquired Remington 7600P .308's pump rifles should make for a fast handy gun.

I have thorught it would be a lot of fun to have one on a .416 Rigby or .458 Lott if it could take the punishment