Can anyone recommend a gunsmith who can put a Winchester style (M70) safety on my CZ for me? Someone who could also bed the stock would be great too.

Thanks in advance . . .

Try this thread, he makes 3-postion safeties for a lot of different rifles.

http://www.edlapourgunsmithing.com/

I know that the 2-position safety vs. 3-position safety is like talking about politics or religion, but why bother? The 2-position works and the 3-position is slow. I just don't see the point. No hate mail, please.

I don't think anyone makes a two-position for the CZ, Will. I suppose you could have a one-off made that way by skipping the middle detent. But I don't disagree from a practical point.

call american hunting rifles, they are very good with cz guns, I have one and they are doing another one for me now. they can do both

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call american hunting rifles, they are very good with cz guns, I have one and they are doing another one for me now. they can do both

Gerryb's right, get ahold of Wayne (Bitterroot here) or Ed @ AHR and have them do the safety. In fact, I'd have them do the safety, straighten & fill the bolt handle, & bed it. Of course it's easy for me to spend your money

Hot damn, that is a pretty piece of wood

Ditto on AHR, they will do the work properly.

Since you're in Kali, you should try the guy in Grass Valley. PM Whitworth for his contact info, had the info in my other computer before the motherboard gave up its ghost. Jack Huntington is partnered up with him and he does all the rifle work and JH does all the handgun work.

Thanks

Sweet rifle, 600, SWEEEET!

My 458WM should be ready in a couple of weeks.I am not changing the safety.It is not that important to me.I feel a safety should be on the left side of the action or the rear,but not the right like the Winchester.The reason being is that you could accidentally trip the safety when you are quickly working the bolt.I am getting a spacer in the magazine because the 458WM cartridges are too small for the big CZ action.I am also getting a barrel band with a swivel and a new recoil pad.I am also replacing the flimsy bolt handle with something better.Last,I will be getting a new trigger to replace the fragile CZ trigger.The gunsmith will machine his own.I will post pics when it gets here.

Gentry makes one for the CZ, anyone resembling a gunsmith can install it. I've got one on my .375 and another on order for my .416.
http://www.gentrycustom.com/threeposition.html

It has happened to me on a Remington mod 700.I don't see why it can't happen with a Winchester.It doesn't happen every day but I believe it can happen on a Winchester also.It can happen also if you have to reach around with your right hand and put a cartridge in the magazine.

Shootaway,
Have you ever even seen a model 70? If the safety is on safe, you can't open the bolt.If it is off, it can't be put on while the bolt is open, even if you hit it with a sledgehammer.
You can put the safety on on your CZ with the bolt open BTW.

Thanks for clearing that up for me Dogleg.I have not hunted with Win rifles more than a couple of years.I never use the safeties on any of my rifles.I still would prefer it on the left side so there is no chance of it getting in the way, like it did on my Remington and prevented me from quickly firing another round, before I figured out the problem.

My CZ 550, highly modified, an AHR 450 Dakota.



BRNO 602 stock by McMillan.

AHR mod 70 safety and trigger.

Straight bolt handle.



Plating and stock by ROBAR in Phoenix, AZ.

Andy

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Originally posted by Teat Hound:
Sweet rifle, 600, SWEEEET!

Thanks Eric----she's a honey

Hi all, just got my rifle back from Ed and Wayne at AHR. They did their CZ #1 upgrade (straighten and fill bolt, 3 position Model 70 type safety and a really nice single stage trigger). They also replaced the rear sight with an NECG one, and re-glass bedded the action and added a recoil lug. It all looks great, looking forward to shooting it on Sunday! I apologize ahead for my lousy photography, if someone has any helpful hints on photographing rifles, I'm all ears ...





Regards,
Chuck

Nice rifle, Chuck. I'm liking what I see there.

Thanks much, I bought this CZ as a project rifle, plan to hunt with it in the U.S. while I'm putting my youngest through college. Plans include rebarreling it to 470 Capstick (Krieger barrel, etc.) next winter and eventually having Kevin Weaver (local gunsmith who does lovely work) go over the checkering and refinish it in that lovely dark classic English color like this Hartmann and Weiss I never could afford.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/detail.cfm?id=100004645&string=cid=249

As soon as young son finishes college (or sooner if I can afford it) it's off to Africa for me! By that time this rifle should feel like part of me ...



Thanks again,

Chuck

Just got back from the range, the NECG rear sight is a huge improvement. Only went to a friend's place to shoot, so only could shoot at 25 and 50 yards, but shot ragged one hole groups with both open sights and the Leupold 1.5 - 5x scope. The rifle kicks less with factory 300g loads than my friends Marlin 45/70 with light factory loads. Definitely need to go up in caliber ...



Chuck

Friends-

I recently acquired a CZ 550 in 9.3 X 62 and the knob to my bolt handle is solid. It's not hollow like some that I have seen and thus does not need filling. Is this a rarity?

Thanks in advance.

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Gentry makes one for the CZ, anyone resembling a gunsmith can install it. I've got one on my .375 and another on order for my .416.
http://www.gentrycustom.com/threeposition.html

Dogleg did you doing the gunsmithing on that yourself? Are you familair with the David Miller* 3-pos safety that Brownells sells? If so is that a do-it-yourself proposition?



* hope I got that right...


Btw what is the beef that so many people have with the bolt handle on the Brno's? I have no compalints about mine at all.

30 Caliber Mag Fan, the CZ 550 9.3 X 62 is built on the standard size action ( 30-06, .270 Win, etc. ) and has a completely different bolt handle. The knob is threaded on and not integral like the magnum bolt. We still straighten and lift the bolt to get it away from the knuckles on your trigger finger, then shorten it just a bit.

Bitterroot-

Thanks for that information, as well as the information you e-mailed me regarding the Model 70-type safety.

I am definitely wanting to sent it up for a CZ Upgrade #1.

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Gentry makes one for the CZ, anyone resembling a gunsmith can install it. I've got one on my .375 and another on order for my .416.
http://www.gentrycustom.com/threeposition.html

Dogleg did you doing the gunsmithing on that yourself? Are you familair with the David Miller* 3-pos safety that Brownells sells? If so is that a do-it-yourself proposition?



* hope I got that right...


Btw what is the beef that so many people have with the bolt handle on the Brno's? I have no compalints about mine at all.

I can't answer without asking more questions. Do you mean David Miller or David Gentry? When I search Brownells for 3 position safeties I do find a David Gentry safety for a M98 Mauser. That particular one won't work. The Gentry safety that does fit is specifically made for the 550 Magnum and also requires a different cocking piece. I can't even say whether it will fit on the 602 bolt, because I don't know. I bought mine direct.
The safety comes with rather detailed installation instructions. I didn't put it in myself but my gunsmith only charged an hour labour, and had it done the same day. I didn't have the right carbide cutter anyway. It could be a do it yourself project, depending on your confidence level.
Do you still have that heavy magazine spring around?

Dogleg, oops. My bad, David Gentry is the right name.
So the Gentry safety could be put on my CZ-550, but you are unsure about the ZKK-602.

I am sorta interested in replacing both the trigger and the safety at once, if they are certain to work. I mean to call David Henry at Bentley and get his opinion on the idea. My .416 still needs a barrel band so I could get that, plus get both triggers and safetys replaced.
As long as they work! As long as his opinion of them is good!

Did you buy the safety directly from CZ USA?

Yeah, I think I still have 2 of those Mauser 98 magnum springs.

Demonical,
I got my safety direct from Gentry Custom, it also requires their cocking piece.If the Gentry shroud will screw onto the Brno bolt body, chances are that it will work because the bolt body, firing pin and spring are the only parts that are retained.
I've got a barrel band that will fit your rifle, no gunsmithing necessary. Well, unless you think of turning one Allen screw as gunsmithing. Swap for one of those magnum springs?

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Demonical,
I got my safety direct from Gentry Custom, it also requires their cocking piece.If the Gentry shroud will screw onto the Brno bolt body, chances are that it will work because the bolt body, firing pin and spring are the only parts that are retained.
I've got a barrel band that will fit your rifle, no gunsmithing necessary. Well, unless you think of turning one Allen screw as gunsmithing. Swap for one of those magnum springs?

I already have one of those dubious allen screw "barrel-bands".

Dogleg send me a pm with your address and I'll mail you one of those springs.

Call Wayne at American Hunting Rifles...they'll fix you right up...

Ol Bull I think I can order any of the parts direct from Brownell's and then have my gunsmith do the work.
Depending on how difficult it is, I would be interested to do the CZ-550 myself.

It can't be that complicated...

The one thing I cannot do is the barrel-band though. Also I need to consult him as to whether he has knowledge of these parts and if he would recommend them.

As far as dealing with a cross-border shop I am afraid that is not a good option, or at least not an option I want to explore.

It might be a complicator getting Brownells to send gunparts over $100. They are real sticklers on that one.Do you have the link to the safety at Brownells?

Dogleg I cannot access Brownells from "work" but I have the link at home.
Like I said, until I give David Henry a call, and discuss the trigger and safety with him, I'm not going to do anything.