I just saw a 416 Ruger model 77 for sale on gunbroker I think.It said they were soon to come.I am wondering how long it will take for ammo and brass.Remington,winchester and other quit making the 416 Rem mag so the Ruger under $1000 will take up alot of slack.I am thinking of converting my Mark I Ruger 77 in 7 mag to one.I have 6 416 rem mags.I just like that tang safety better.When the 375 Ruger came out it was a while before I saw the ammo.I guess you could neck up some 375 Ruger brass.It seems like Browning should make the 416 Ruger in an abolt but it might not handle it.A friend converted his 375 H&H to a 375 Weatherby and wacked off the barrel and it knocks the snott out of him.

I figure if there is one for sale now, then it was built by Ray Atkinson, not Ruger.

Darrel Whittaker is guessing the .416 Ruger might arrive in Kentucky no earlier than March 2009 ... but you know how those Ruger things go sometimes.

Ruger has had another massive recall on the little pocket pistol, same trigger problem they had on another pistol.

Dropping the pistol 250 times will make it go off once, on average.
Rugers have to be droppable from waist high onto a concrete floor 1 million times with no AD to pass the legal department.

Since when did Remington and Winchester stop making rifles for the 416 REM
I think the 416 Ruger will have a good following
Daniel

I wasn't aware that they stoped making the 416 Rem.
I own a 416 Rem. I have a book of all the comman rifles made coming and I'll find out

Midway is listing brass on their website for .416 Ruger.

Winchester totally quit making the 416 rm and Remington make very few in the custon shop at a price.If these 416 Rugers sell for $800 they will sell very good.Its like I have always thought a rifle under $1000 is going to sell 100 times as more than a $2500 rifle.There were alot of 375 Rugers sold in Alaska.Its probally selling about as much as the 338 win mag in new guns.The 416 Ruger will be a hit because of being the best buy in a big bore.

Winchester ain't making much of anything these days!!

Rich
Buffalo Killer

Rich, You are quite correct on that. I am surprised I have not seen a single new model 70 for sale on anyones gun rack yet. Meanwhile...Ruger is dominating in gun sales like a champ, gaining more market share each year. The only close competitor is CZ.

I like your new handle...buffalo killer!

I don't see where you are from but, a 411 Hawk is a good option for most people in North America. A CZ Magnum is another good choice that can be purchased under $1,000 if you want a big cartridge.

I just don't see the new Ruger cartridges being that unique after the WSM, Remington Ultra Mags and then the RSAUM which followed after the WSM's. Sure they each have their own "tweaks" but, it seems to be more of a marketing gimmick to me.

Best Regards,
Sid

I agree and disagree. Are the Ruger new magnums needed? Not really. But they are nice to have. Will they succeed? You bet. The reason...Ruger is in a much better financial position to "push" the new magnums than Winchester was. Winchester was on their last leg looking to the WSM as a last ditch effort...and it did not work as planned. Granted, the 300WSM has its followers and will live, but the rest are done for. Ruger not only has deep pockets, but they have both a decent rifle priced right and a good consumer following because they stand behind their products and are innovative with new stuff all the time. Thats what makes for a winner. Their new magnums are winners. I have lots of Ruger handgun and rifle products, including a 375 Ruger and now a 416 Ruger. See what I mean.

Sid,

Gotta remember, the 416 and 375 Ruger's are not short actions like the 30 and 338 RCM's. I agree it was dumb of Ruger to bring out their own short mags, as Winchester pretty much hung the hat on that market. The RCM's also perform poorely with reloading, and ammo is still vary sparse from the factory. Even Rem gave up their shorty when they saw Win won the battel. Heck I bet even Lazzeroni got a lot less orders for their 2.8" mags after the WSM's took off. The WSSM's...if you have one, stock up in brass now lol (like I am) the 7mmWSM is getting a good following on the BR scene, the 270 and 300 will live on for quite some time.

Back to the 416/375, they may not be TOO unique, in that they basically just made a mass produced Dakota line of cartridges, but they made them available to average joe's. Ruger also made a good move business wise, in creating legit DG cartridges that can be housed in the same actions as any of the standard magnum rifles. Parts bin sharing, just like automakers. They'll be able to produce them in large numbers for a lower cost without having to have new toolings and special actions (like the RSM's). Good move on their part for both projects IMO

PS I agree with you on the 411 Hawk, but even Fred states loading the 411 takes some experience with the tiny shoulders and such. Plus its a custom only job, not an 800$ off the shelf at Sportsmans Warehouse/Gander Mountain/Whatever other big box store that you can pick up, handle, feel and decide if its what you want.