The 235 gr barnes XLC s may be worth a try also . The listed b.c. is around 0.400 and Barnes data says they can be driven to around 3000 fps. That would nearly equal the trajectory of a .270 , not too shabby in my view .

I was hoping Barnes would try about a 250 weight when they came out with their .375 diameter triple shocks......

Hi all,



I was just looking into some longer range .375 cal. 'plains game' or elk bullets and came out with three options:



1. Nosler Accubond, 260 gr. B.C.: .473

2. Lost River J36 275 gr. B.C.: .590

3. Barnes TSX 270 gr. B.C.: .503



Anyone use these or care to share any comments on them?



For instance, I have read that Lost River bullets, besides being expensive, are not as accurate as claimed. I would like to hear from anyone using them.



At 300+ yard ranges, I have also heard that the Barnes TSX may not expand (act more like a solid) given .375 H&H velocities. Any experience on this?



How well do the Accubonds hold up at closer ranges, say under 100 yards, on big game (elk, kudu, zebra), ?



Let's get a discussion going

I'll be looking into the AccuBond 260's at a later date.
They oughtta scream out of my .375 Ultra

I have not been a Barnes fan, but these new TSXs look good to me and the hollow point is a bigger hole..They are hyped as the best yet and I have heard good things about them..

The BarnesXs have always been good Buffalo bullets and big animal bullets as far as I can tell and I have dug a lot of them out of buffalo shot by others..they always look good, but I have seen and had problems with smaller animals..

I just got a couple of boxes of the 270 GR. TSX's for my 375 and they are as long as a No. 2 pencil...

After trying several powders, I settled on IMR-4895 as the best to stay away from compaction and still get good velocity...We'll see where it goes from there when we get a warm still day, if that day ever comes...

I will also be trying the 350 gr. Rhino, and any powder will compact with that bullet, I don't know how the find a powder to shoot the 380 gr. bullet, maybe they use Bulleye , just kidding for you serious types about the bulleye..

Whichever bullet you select, make sure it's not so long that it seats too deeply into the case when seated to fit the magazine. This decreases powder capacity and velocities.

George

CL: I am taking my 375 H&H to Namibia in 4 weeks for a PG hunt and will use it exclusively on all game from springbok to eland. Have several boxes of the Federal factory 260 Nosler Accubond, and 1 box of FailSafes.

In my Rem 700 SS BDL, the Noslers are a dream. It shoots ragged one hole groups @ 100, and I'm still getting 6" or less groups at 300 yards. Using a Leupold 1.75 x 6X, it is flat and fast enough for the ranges I want to shoot. The only problem I had reloading them was the bullets were getting stuck in the seating plug, unless they were crimped. RCBS is providing a new custom plug for $12.95 and $3 shipping, by sending them 3 sample bullets.

Will be doing penetration and expansion testing this weekend in various wet media. Hope to get some pictures of recovered bullets.

That sounds great. I don't doubt that the 260 gr. Nosler Accubond will work excellent for PG. Let us know if its performance!

George, you're right- given their length, I guess one should expect a slight decrease in velocity from copper or copper-nickel alloy bullets; unless, the rifle is customized to chamber longer bullets.

Could this be another reason to go with a .375 Weatherby or RUM? The longer bullet will seat deeper in the case, reducing velocity down to .375 H&H levels while shooting a superior B.C. bullet. Regardless, I will probably end up chambering for a .375 Weatherby- if anything, just to be a little different

I read a recent report by a man who used the 260 grain balistic-tips on two large frame oryx. He had no problem with shoulder shots.

What George said, even the 375 H&H with a 270 GR. TSX Barnes is too long for most powders..H4895 is the only powder I found suitable that got decent velocity and didn't crush powder all to hell..

It also is the only powder that works well with the overly long 350 gr. Rhino bullet and its questionable there..They must use Bullseye with the 380 gr. Rhino (joke) as it touches the primer!!

I would think the 240 gr. HV from GS Custom would be a very good choice.

Apparently, a few people are having delivery problems with GS Custom, though I cannot verify this as I have never dealt with them.



The 270 gr. TSX may even be a possible Buffalo & PG bullet, given that it achieves good penetration by retaining high sectional density. Anyone use one for buff?



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Hi all,



I was just looking into some longer range .375 cal. 'plains game' or elk bullets and came out with three options:



1. Nosler Accubond, 260 gr. B.C.: .473

2. Lost River J36 275 gr. B.C.: .590

3. Barnes TSX 270 gr. B.C.: .503



Anyone use these or care to share any comments on them?



For instance, I have read that Lost River bullets, besides being expensive, are not as accurate as claimed. I would like to hear from anyone using them.



At 300+ yard ranges, I have also heard that the Barnes TSX may not expand (act more like a solid) given .375 H&H velocities. Any experience on this?



How well do the Accubonds hold up at closer ranges, say under 100 yards, on big game (elk, kudu, zebra), ?



Let's get a discussion going

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CanadianLefty

ALF can hook you up with some GS custom real fast

Cheers,

Andr�

I agree with most of the above posts. I am anxious to try the TSX bullets too. Ray where did you find them? I haven't seen any advertised as available yet. One more bullet to throw into the mix is the Barnes 210 gr bullet. My 21 inch barrel still spits them out at over 3K and MOA. This is an area of interest for several on the board. Let us know what you find. Good hunting. "D"

Jokes aside, the GS Customs look like good bullets but they do no seem to publish any ballistic coefficients for them.

D Hunter,



As for obtaining Barnes TSX bullets, try calling Barnes up directly to locate your closest dealer- their ph.# is on the website.



Further, while the Barnes X 210 gr bullets will work for plains game, their ballistic coefficient is only .341 compared to their 270 gr bullets at .503.



If we assume (based on my friends chrono and rifle) that the .375 H&H shoots the 210grs at 3100FPS and the 270grs at 2800FPS note the following with 200 yard zero at 400 yards:



1. 210 gr bullet will drop about -20.4 inches with wind drift (at 10MPH) of 15.7 inches

2. 270 gr bullet will drop about -22.2 inches but have a wind drift (at 10MPH)of only 11.6 inches



What I hope this demonstrates is that between 300 and 400 yards, the 270gr bullet (provided it expands properly and is accurate in your rifle) will drop less than 2 inches more than the faster 210 gr bullet BUT retain greater energy, achieve deeper penetration based on S.D. and have less wind drift than the lighter 210 gr. bullet.

What's wrong with the good old regular 300gr Sierra SPBT? Launched at close to 2600fps I would think it shoots flat enough and should perform on the intended game? How far out are you intending to shoot?
Con

Nothing is wrong with the 300gr Sierra SBT; however, the Ballistic Coefficient is about .480 given about 2500fps vs. the Barnes X 270gr. at .503 and 2800fps...and for plains game and elk, IMHO, Sierra's 300 grs is too heavy a load and will result in unecessary penetration and a more rainbow trajectory.

That being said, for all intents and purposes, any 250-300gr. bullet, provided you know its trajectory will suffice in 95% of all situations for whatever you are hunting.

As to what range I am talking about? Picture this situation: you are on a 14-21 day hunt for hunt for Buff, leopard, sable, kudu and other assorted plains game...you are carrying your .375 as your primary weapon while out for buff, when suddenly, at 340 yards you see the sable (kudu or whatever) of your dreams. You have only 5-10 seconds for a shot as the animal will feed out of sight and there is no chance for a stalk as the wind is wrong....


More food for thought from this site:
BARNES X PERFORMANCE IN AFRICA BIG GAME ANIMALS:
With many of the petals sheered off, they still got the job done; however, would you call that bullet failure? I know that the Trophy Bonded Bear Claws that I have used have really mushroomed well and retained 80%+ of their weight.

Personally I think the "premium" projectiles such as the Barnes X etc... will more than likely out penetrate the Sierra, particularly on broadside shots. When you find your bullet for up close buffalo AND 300yd shots on plains game from the 375H&H let me know... because I think your asking too much of any single projectile. Any medium to large game at 250+ yards is safe from me, I have no regrets about that, particularly where a muffed shot can't be followed up immediately and will no doubt cost me a trophy fee.
Cheers...
Con

Not necessarily a bullet for both Buff and Plains game, rather 2 bullets/loads both of which you know their trajectory in your particular rifle. One for plains game, the other for buff.



That being said, I do not think a 75 yard buff would be too pleased with a broadside or quartering away shot through the lungs from a Barnes-TSX 270 gr. bullet either AND that would do just fine for longer distance plains game and elk.

Cheers,

CL

The 265gr HV's are a great lookin' bullet. I have a few that I intend to take to RSA next spring. I will be starting load development with them shortly.

Cheers,
Canuck

I ordered my 375 .270 gr. TSX bullets direct from Barnes...I think they are out in the better stores now, I know they are in the new Graf catalog..

The 416s should be just around the corner, say in a couple of weeks.d

The best Cape Buffalo bullet I have ever used, and that includes many brands and weights, is the new .416 Nosler partition in 400 gr.....It is simply the perfect buffalo bullet under any conditions...It expands perfectly to about 65 caliber, and the long shaft is never bent..It will shoot through a buff broadside for the most part and will shoot through them lengthwise and stop in the neck or shoulder under the skin..It is just a perfect bullet, now if they would toughen up their 375 to the same specs it too would sit in the pound seats...

YUP...375 RUM would be better for this application. Velocities and trajectories are the same as the 270 Win, but the bullets weigh twice as much.



With the RUM, once you get down in weight to 270 grs, H or IMR 4350 will break 3000 fps at 91% load density (Nosler 5th ED>. This is what you want for a long bullet that seats deeply.

I recieved my TSX bullets from Midway last week and had a chance to try them out last weekend.

I loaded them with RL-15, WW cases and used Federal GM 215 primers. The results are as follows:

74.0 grains-2722 fps
75.0 grains-2743 fps
76.0 grains-2772 fps
77.0 grains 2806 fps

With the previous loads I only fired one shot as I worked my loads up to see what the max would be. Even at 77.0 my rifle didn't show any signs of pressure.

I then fired 4 more rounds at the 74.0 grains to see what the average would be. 2727 fps with a deviation of 6 fps. My 4 shot group was .845 and my 3 shot group (throwing out the flyer) was .482.

They seem to be a good bullet as far as accuracy out of my rifle, now I just have to see how they do on game.

Was that outside to outside? If so that is a great group. If that is outside to outside then take away the .375 that is .107 by my math. I would have a hard time arguing with that load and velocity. No pressure concerns. I assume you have a 24 inch barrel. Good Hunting. "D"