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Is this real walnut grain?

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04 July 2017, 09:35
Brian564
Is this real walnut grain?




Having an argument with someone about this gun. One opinion says the figuring in the walnut is natural, another says it's artificially painted.

What do you think? Also, does it look like American walnut, or Turkish walnut?



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04 July 2017, 10:01
LHeym500
I'll take a chance at being wrong; natural and American. I hope you and I agree and are right.
04 July 2017, 10:30
Ray B
Looks like quarter-sawn American Walnut to me.
04 July 2017, 15:46
p dog shooter
Looks like dyed birch
04 July 2017, 16:31
airgun1
American Black walnut no question.


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04 July 2017, 17:14
mete
While I agree with the American Black Walnut response remember that it grows all over the country under every condition, Therefore huge variations can be found in color weight hardness.
04 July 2017, 17:16
Sevens
Looks like walnut to me, seen plenty of factory stocks with that pattern. Sure hope that the grain pattern through the wrist is more horizontal.


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04 July 2017, 18:01
crshelton
I have seen real USA walnut and "painted" inexpensive Turkish walnut that looks like that.

Is that a metal escutcheon plate on the stock?


May we hear a bit more of the gun maker and rifle?


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05 July 2017, 02:44
Atkinson
Slab of black walnut, Its not quarter sawn, its slab sawed..Cheap wood but usable for a working rifle..


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05 July 2017, 02:54
Crazyhorseconsulting
Nice looking piece of walnut, but I would not want it on a rifle in a caliber with significant recoil.


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05 July 2017, 04:16
Nakihunter
Very porous black walnut.


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05 July 2017, 04:21
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Slab of black walnut, Its not quarter sawn, its slab sawed..Cheap wood but usable for a working rifle..


100% - slab sawn, black walnut -- more than likely from a youngish tree and in mid-trunk -


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05 July 2017, 04:23
jeffeosso
black walnut = american

while there is plain and porous european walnut, it looks very much different - and "english" french, and turkish are all the same species, while "black" or american walnut is a different species -- that makes an infertile hybrid, commonly called bastogne


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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05 July 2017, 05:01
Brian564
Thanks people. So the general agreement is that it's American walnut. Is there an agreement too that the grain is natural and not applied?

It's a Benelli semi auto.



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05 July 2017, 05:18
jeffeosso
sure looks like american walnut, and while likely dyed to bring out color, the grain is natural


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
05 July 2017, 05:40
Brian564
My argument wins then. I thought the grain was natural even if the color was not. Thank you all Smiler



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06 July 2017, 03:36
Atkinson
The grain on your stock is natural, the finish being what brings out the grain and will darken it to various degrees, and applications, not to mention what finish you use. Im not into dye as I don't care for it, or find it useful, with the one exception exception of Alkanet root, or for patch work, not to mention its hard to use.

Your blank is natural with a satin oil modified finish is my best guess..Properly inletted American black, Claro or Bastogne will take all the recoil in the world, its tough stuff if grown in a proper region, properly cured/dryed. The three are hard shell walnut, Bastogne is the strongest and the heaviest of the hard shells..American walnut is used on the majority of factory rifles including the .458 Win not to mention the big sharps rifles..It suffers a bad rap because someone said so, and many believed. There are only two kinds of walnut, soft shell and hard shell. The wood is named from its geographical location.

American walnut or hard shell walnut is not my choice of wood, I prefer the soft shell and that being Russian/Turkish from the Russian/Turkish border that's got 100 year old trees that grew in the harish of weather..Black walnut grown in such climes would be probably as strong, but its not grown under such duress that I know of, its also much heavier, whereas the European such as soft shell French is very light and every bit as strong..Most of my stocks are the Russian varity soft shell.

Soft shell English grown in California is somewhat inferior to the Overseas wood due to weather conditions IMO..Its mostly grown on a ditch bank in California..

Claro is a pretty wood with a dark red matrix and tiger striping in some cases, and its a cross bred wood, as is Bastogne. Bastogne has a different grain with vertical color varitions and its pretty.

All that said, there are exceptions, The late Tony Barnes gave me a beautiful blood red tiger stripped Claro blank, that's light, and harder than woodpecker lips and took 32 LPI checkering and would have taken more..I have no explanation for the exceptions but they are rare indeed..

Could write a book on gunstock wood, but you should get the idea..Damn few people know good wood, many think they do, but its a complicated learning process, as a matter of fact. I know an individual that can smell the root and tell you how hard the wood is! I really do and he is always 100% dead on.