Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
one of us |
I've had a Leopold Vari-X III 1.5-5 on my .458 Win Mag since the late '90s and it's never failed nor has the POI changed at all. As mentioned above, rings may be the real issue. My scope is in Warne quick-detach rings which I think accounts for the scope's longevity and accuracy. I don't shoot the .458 these days but for several years I spent a good deal of time at the range developing loads, so the scope has certainly had its share of punishment--as has my shoulder! The gun and scope made a trip to Zimbabwe, sorted out a Cape buffalo, and then was for the most part retired. LTC, USA, RET Benefactor Life Member, NRA Member, SCI & DSC Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969 "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning | |||
|
one of us |
What most people don't understand is that the standard screw holes and mounts that are found on .270- .458 win class rifles will eventually fail if they are converted to serious DGRs. i.e. Lotts to OKs ! Most people don't understand that the screw holes in factory receivers will fail with moderate to heavy scopes with high recoil rifles. You really need to D&T oversize receiver base mounting holes and use steel bases machined specifically for those oversized screws. How many people actually are aware or really do this? Answer is almost no one. Next the scope rings themselves need to really be up for the task and lapped for the individual scope so that It doesn't move. Most of the scope failures I've seen appear to be due in part to these issues as well as to the use of scopes never designed for or intended for real high recoiling rifle use. Some folks don't even know that the scope mounting position is critical to insure that internal parts of the scope are not positioned under the rings in such a position that the scope breaks due to internal stresses caused by improper installation. Owner induced failure is more common than you'd expect! In my experience a properly mounted leupold 2.5x is the best choice for a serious DGR that's used frequently. Safe queens and anecdotal experiences of others need not apply. Over the years of a heck of a lot of big bore shooting, I've had my share of mounts fail and scopes break and have learned alot about what works and what doesn't the hard way. Everyone is of course free to learn these same lessons on their own! Hope this helps! Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
|
One of Us |
I'll do what I can, but I am passing on someone else's testimony, not my own. In the thread "Scope on a 458 Win Mag......witch", on 30 July 2013 16:54
And in the same thread, 2nd page, 17April 2014 07:16:
Again, something similar on 04 June 2014 15:57 on the thread "RE: Nikon scope?"
Personally, I don't shoot enough to make my experience anything more than anecdotal. I've had great experiences with Leupold and equally or better with Nikon since 2009. But anyone who followed the terminals thread knows that Michael, above, shoots thousands of big bore rounds every year. His experiences are more than anecdotal. Anyway, while I really like the light little 2-8 Nikon Monarch, I have gravitated toward the muzzleloader scope lines of Nikon because of their 5-inch eye relief. The scopes only run about $200 but in their quality they do it all, except illuminated reticle. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
|
one of us |
I personally will dismiss all the other posts and go with Robgunbuilder as his experience is the same as mine..To each his own and live and learn is my advise.. I will only use the 2.5X Leupold and 8x40 screws to hold it on, they will be hand fitted on a surface ground receiver..end of story. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
|
One of Us |
To learn a person must ponder what is going on when someone busts 13 scopes over 18 months and then zero with a second brand but lots and lots of big bore shooting. I just like my wife to have 5in eyerelief on her 375. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
|
One of Us |
I have a 50 B&M rifle which chewed through a Leupold VXR,Vx-3 1.5-5 and actualy sheared the screws on Talley mounts. Have been using a Nikon Monarch 3 African 1-4 on both this rifle and my 500 Jeffreys with no issues 100'a of rounds. The scope is very well built is extra long and light which helps a scope on a heavy recoiling rifle. I bought 4 of them at a closeout for $199.00 great buy. I have Leupold scopes on most of my other rifles 416 and under with no issued and hundreds of rounds fired | |||
|
one of us |
If I broke that many scopes, I'd really look at how they were mounted in the first place! as I've said poor mounting more than anything else leads to broken scopes of all types. I thought I knew what I was doing but shooting the big .50s taught me some major lessons that I transferred to my other big bores. No offense but most even experienced people and gunsmiths don't know how to do it right!As Ray correctly pointed out, have you D&Td your receiver for larger screws,have you made absolutely sure the rings are not creating stresses in the scope or receiver? If not guess what, maybe that's why your scope broke. Great news on the Nikons, but I'll pass! Personally I rely on my own experience far more than others for good reasons. Leupold 2.5x compacts just don't break on big bores when properly installed and that's what I use and recommend to others! Everyone is always free to do as they please! Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
|
one of us |
Absolutely golden advice! .................................................................... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
|
Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 3 |
Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |
Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia