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There are a few mentions of "Driving Bands" in the American Civil War Artillery piece articles also circa 1863.-Rob

check your old American Rifleman from the 'thirties. They experimented (Newton comes to mind) with the forerunner to the grooved bullets we are seeing today in lead. There were little slinky-like inserts of coiled wire that were inserted int a hot mould and then lead poured in. Strange looking thing to be sure.

The other concept that somebody at Wolfe Publishing tried to revive was this driving band idea. They had punches made that cut the center out of regular gaschecks; leaving a similar looking thing to the graphic shown. The author claimed jacketed velocity and accuracy from his cast, but the idea never got off the ground. Too much like work I believe...

Rich
DRSS & NRA Life Member

Alf, thanks for those excellent historical references.

Alf,

You should have also mentioned the September 2006 Magnum magazine article about the 800 mm railway gun and the banded projectile (referred to as driving bands - where that terminology came from I don't know). Circa 1937.

Nothing much new under the sun.

Alf,
Thank you for the pictures and information. It is interesting. Below is an excellent picture of the latest model Ferrari. It has four wheel drive, a fuel injected V8, it is yellow and it is steered by turning the big round wheel you find in front of you when you sit in the driver's seat. Neat.



I think my previous post on this subject is still valid.

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I am relaxed, did you not notice that I bought a round? I thought if I called the Hummer a Ferrari, it would fool some people into thinking it is a Ferrari. Oh well....

By the way, the Hummer in the picture is the small model now manufactured here in Port Elizabeth by GM and exported globally. They are not for sale here because of the left hand drive.

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By the way, the Hummer in the picture is the small model now manufactured here in Port Elizabeth by GM and exported globally. They are not for sale here because of the left hand drive.

Good! No-one needs germ obssesed soccer moms, deep-in-debt young goons who watch 'ultimate fighting' or bling-bling wannabees driving any more Hummers (and battling to park them like a bunch of grannies).....

I got to drive a proper military Hummer belonging to the 82nd Airborne when they were doing practice jumps in the desert in Botswana. Impressive vehicle, even if you do need a megaphone to converse with the passenger.

Certainly way way better than a Land Rover Defender, outshines a 'Cruiser and it definitely will kick the ass of that weedy little Nomad of yours, ALF!!!!

I like 'em...but I mos def have a thing for the Ford F250XLT (the double cab version)

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I'm looking at the registration plate and it must have been bought around the time the Stander gang was the hot news - early eighties am I right?

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Gerard, me thinks you have Ferrari confused with Lamborghini
Lamborghini Cheetah 4x4 V12

Lamborghini began after WWII by making tractors from ex military vehicles. The sports Lambo only came after some disgruntlement with Enzo Ferrari.Read Here

Woodjack,
I have not seen that Lambo 4x4 for a while. It was an impressive vehicle at the time of the launch and if I recall correctly, could not get off the ground because of tyres that would not stand up to what the car could dish out on road and off road.

The Ferrari Hummer in my picture is about the same size as a Jeep Grand Cherokee and is far removed from the military machine. It is actually very nice looking and well finished. However, no matter how many times I call it a Drive Band Bullet Ferrari, it will remain a Grooved Bullet Hummer.


Alf,
There are a lot of those Nomads running around on farms in the Eastern Cape. There is one chap in the Jansenville district who buys them for spares for the two he has been using for the last twenty years. When he gets one in better condition than one he is using, the one in service is toast. There were a few that had limited slip differentials and they are better in the rough stuff but will not go around corners when the going gets soft.

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The only other SA built vehicle I can recall is the Dart - sporty type of car with fibre glass body.

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Bob van Niekerk, Willie Meissner and Vester de Wit conceived and designed this
car during 1956. Then they formed the GSM company and started manufacturing
the first two prototypes during 1957. The car proved to be almost unbeatable in
South Africa as well as various racing circuits in Europe.

1959 GSM Dart -

1964 GSM Flamingo -


The cars were launched as open cars and a removable hardtop only followed later.
The Flamingo was a further development and differed in many respects.

A good number of these cars have survived in South Africa, as well as in the UK,
USA and Canada!

Obviously that's not what you have in mind here.

The couple that were running around PE had Chrysler 6 cylinder engines. I cannot remember the name either but it was a Superhero type of name. Avenger or something.

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