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Originally posted by JudgeG:
How many rounds does the magazine hold?

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Originally posted by z1r:
Setch,

I used a Commercial Zastava action and a Military 98. The Commercial of course required a little less effort . Since I started with a commercial .30-06 it required opening the boltface as well as altering the rails. Really, a pretty straight forward conversion.

Using the Zastava bottom metal it will hold three, using Duane Wiebe's 5M it will hold 4.

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Originally posted by z1r:
Setch,

I used a Commercial Zastava action and a Military 98. The Commercial of course required a little less effort . Since I astarted with a commercial .30-06 it required opening the boltface as well as altering the rails. Really, a pretty straight forward conversion.

z1r, who did the action work for you? Though I'm guessing you may have done it yourself...based on your tagline.

Yes, I did.

Here is one next to a Whitworth .375 H&H barreled action. The 416 barrel has a quicker taper just ahead of the receiver ring and the barrel is a bit thinner than the. 375. This allows for a 26" barrel that balances the same as the Whitworth but is more than a 1/2 lb lighter. Sights, barrel band, recoil lug still to come.

z1r...What make barrel do you have on the 416, and the 375?

The 375 has the original Whitworth Barrel.

The .416 sports a Shilen.

I don't know why I would even want one - perhaps just for target practice - but is the .416 Ruger then a straight rebarrel in a Model 70 Classic in .338 Win Mag.?

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Originally posted by silvertip1:
I don't know why I would even want one - perhaps just for target practice - but is the .416 Ruger then a straight rebarrel in a Model 70 Classic in .338 Win Mag.?

A straight 're-barrel' is my general impression, but the Ruger cartridges will be slightly fatter at the shoulder junction and might require very judicious polishing of the rails.

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Originally posted by capoward:
Neither feast nor fowl...the saga of the heavy mediums (i.e., the >.400 and <.458 calibers)... Historically represented by the .416 Rigby and .404 Jeffery... Flat shooting and accurate like the 9,3/.375 calibers with a 'delivery thump' on DG approaching the .458's... What's not to like - especially if your 'shoulder capability' falls short of the >.458 caliber cartridges...

Sorry Jim,

I have to disagree with you just a bit on perspective here. I certainly have heard this statement often concerning the 416s as being neither fish nor fowl, but IMO, the 416s greatest attraction is that they are both fish AND fowl.

Beyond that little semantical joust, the rest of your comment is spot on! Flat shooting and accurate like the 9.3/375s AND delivering a "thump" approaching the 458s is exactly what separates them from the two extremes. For me, the 375 is not the all round take anywhere do anything single rifle DG solution. For me, that description is best filled with a 416 Ribgy, the other variants notwithstanding. .416 is truly the one rifle, one planet solution!

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Originally posted by RIP:
Nice. I did the same thing with my .416 Ruger Hawkeye Alaskan to replace the Hogue stock.
Uncle Mike's used to make a kit to replace the rattling sling hangers on that canoe-paddle stock.
Has filler hardware and studs, a nut inside forearm if stud desired there.
Or you can use the barrel band already on the rifle and a solitary stud on the buttstock. Or just home-rig it yourself like that.
A bit of drilling in the hard plastic stock is required either way.

Phil's 7-pound .416 Ruger above.
Here is the butt of my .416 Ruger, below:

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I have to disagree with you just a bit on perspective here. I certainly have heard this statement often concerning the 416s as being neither fish nor fowl, but IMO, the 416s greatest attraction is that they are both fish AND fowl.

Beyond that little semantical joust, the rest of your comment is spot on! Flat shooting and accurate like the 9.3/375s AND delivering a "thump" approaching the 458s is exactly what separates them from the two extremes.

Todd,

I agree with you, the .416s and .423s are both 'fish and fowl' and as such are the 'all around calibers'...

I sure do like those old "boatpaddle stocks" they are strong as hell and they seem to suck up recoil about as well as any stock I have used.

I have one in a .338 Win. its been my foul weather elk rifle, but at my age the best foul weather gear is my lounge chair in front of the TV. I think I put it up for sale on the classified sometime back!

I have built several 416 Rugers and one 404 Ruger, all on FN or 98 Mauser actions..Pretty simple conversion, easier than converting to a .416 Rem. but both are easy enough. I have some pictures if your interested..

I sold them all of course, as I have my 404 Jefferys, but were I to be in need of a 416 Ruger then I would probably buy a Ruger African in that caliber or build myself one on a Comm. FN action or 98 Mauser.

Its probably a better round than the .416 Rem all things considered, but again I am overloaded with .416 Rem brass and loaded ammo and dies etc. I would probably just stay with the Rem. It seems to me about all the 40 calibers are the same thing in a different pair of pants..ALL are excellent.