I have never seen factory seconds from Nosler. I recently made a purchase of some 375 Brass and Nosler 300gr. Partitions. The Partitions are bagged and marked seconds. Had anyone ever shot seconds and what makes them seconds. The bullets seem to weigh within .1 of each other on my scales. I have not weighed and measured very many but they look good to me.

I have been buying and shooting Nosler seconds for 15 years or so.

Mostly, they are cosmetically blemished. I visually inspect them and segregate them by weight.

George

Nosler inspects their bullets on a conveyor belt and they go through a laser beam. When a blemish or irregularity is found an arm comes out and sweeps all the bullets in that area off the belt. Those bullets go into the seconds bag. They pick out any really bad bullets and sell the rest. I've been using them or years and cannot find any difference between them and the regular bullets. Jim

This Q & A is a perfect example of what makes AR great.

I've been using them for 15-20yrs. Matter of fact that is about the only bullets I buy anymore. I've never seen one I would consider a second. I sure don't weigh mine out. I've found them to group and perform just like the "Real Thing".

Go here http://www.shootersproshop.com/ to get them from the factory.

I want to thank you all for the tip. I knew Sierra sold bulk bullets and have bought them that way. I also knew Hornady had bulk and seconds. I didn't have a clue that Nosler did the same. Thanks. Just bought 30 boxes or bags of nicely priced bullets.

I too have been using them for several years, the worst irregularity I've seen was on two bags of .277" 150gr Partitions, on about 20 of them the lead tips were real inconsistent, much more lead exposed on them.

In the early 60's would go over to the Sierra factory in SantaFe Sprigs about 12mi. from my house in So. Cal. They had a little old house painted Sierra green in front of factory building that they sold 2nds out of and was part of their office space. Every thing was 50 cents a pound. They had wooden bins on one wall with the different bullets that they were working on at the time and you just scouped out how much you wanted and put it in paper bags and they would weigh it. $5 could buy a hell of a lot of 52grHp .224". 99.9% were shootable and 98% were perfect.

I've used them for years and even took Partition seconds in my 300WSM to Namibia.

Years ago, as in fifty plus years ago, we "Brits" were offered "small mark" ammunition in 303 Mk VII and 303 Streamline.

This was what you would call "seconds" in which there were small marks on the outside of the cases. Thus the name "small mark".

As we don't make ammunition now, and haven't done for many years, I suppose it is something else that has gone into the history books.

But FWIW if you ever see "small mark" marked on boxes of 303 sold commercially you'll know what it is!

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Originally posted by Kenpo_Joe:
Go here http://www.shootersproshop.com/ to get them from the factory.

I have bought and used them in the past, however, I cannot get the address given to work today either from this posting or from my bookmarks.

Their server is apparently down, I was just there yesterday.

The link is working now.

George

A lot of the Nosler seconds aren't actually even seconds, they just have cannelures and/or different color tips put in for a specific ammo. company and then weren't delivered to that company. In several hundred bags of seconds I've only had 2-3 that actually had any sort of cosmetic blemish and they just looked like they missed a final polish as the weights were spot on.

I have been shooting the Nosler cosmetic blems for several years now and will continue. I probably have enough for my great grandson to shoot them all his life. They perform and are very cheap. If you don't think they are accurate you have another think coming. I can get pin point accuracy with all that I shoot. I shoot from .243 up to .416 and everything in between. Ballistic Tips, Partitions, Accubonds and TTips. For some reason I cannot buy less then 10 sacs at a time or I feel like I am wasting my time. I shoot them at paper and animals. Good shooting.