what does ss stand for.also will the new1895 45/70 lever action be safe enough for hand loads up to 2150 fps with 300.gr.hp and imr-4198 powder.

SS stands for stainless steel and from my Hornady manual its show 2100fps with 4198 the top load in the Marlin:::::MV

Generally, SS is stood for stainless but I don't think this is the case here with the 1895. I have a stainless guide gun and my is called 1895 GS and not SS. Later. Ming

I forgot to add that for most Marlin 1895 modern rifles, this load should be a piece of cake. I do not use H4198 so I do not know where should you start. I use H322 and for those 300 gr. HP bullets at around 2100 fps, I would start with 58 grains of H322. Pressure for this load should be around 30k psi. Good luck. Ming

There seems to be some confusion about the letters GS and SS. One of these I believe (and I'm not sure which) is for Stainless Steel and the other is for the new type safety Marlin started applying to these rifle a couple of years back. - Dan

The Marlin 1895SS is not stainless steel. The SS rifle is blued with Micro Groove Rifling in the older rifles and Ballard Rifling in rifles made in the last three or four years. It is pistol gripped, non-ported, and has a 22" barrel.
The Stainless Steel 1895 is the GS and is based on the Guide Gun, straight stocked, ported, and an 18" bbl with Ballard Rifling.

The Current rifle that used to be designated as the 1895SS I think is now going only by 1895. They have dropped the "SS" to avoid confusion but the old "1895SS" had nothing to do with stainless steel.

[This message has been edited by Big Bore (edited 02-03-2002).]

Just went to the Marlin web site and it says SS stands for STAINLESS STEEL!:::::MV

i am loading 60grs. of reloader#7 in my marlin guidegun this is the top load in it , and i am getting 2325 fps with a 300gr nosler

I think Big Bore is right as I have an 1895 ss Marlin 45/70 which is blued has a 22 inch barrell with deep cut ballard style rifling. As far as stainless in their bigbores goes it is designated by the letters "GS".

I load 52 grains of AR2207 behind the 300 gr sierra FNHP for around 2150 fps. The maximum in my reloading manual states I could get up to 60 gr of AR2207 for 2400 fps. But to me this seems more like data for Ruger #1 and siamese mausers even though it is stated that this load has been tested in a Marlin action. Trapdoors and older rifles must use lesser loads agin.

The 45/70 lever gun sis the most "fun" rifle I own. One person on another forum called them a "100 yard sledge hammer" and I can vouch that the 100 or so ferals I have shot with the above load do not go anywhere when hit properly.

Regards PC

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PC si right.

My old 1895SS is blue steel.
their site dosent list a 1895ss anymore,
The new gun is just 1895 (blued)
the 1895g= guide gun (18" barrel)
the 1895gs= guide gun/stainless
the 1895m= blued/450 marlin caliber

the 1894ss marlin IS stainless, but in pistol calibers only. OG

The 1972 model of 45-70 was called the 1895, it had a straight grip and 22 inch barrel. Later, they added a pistol grip, and it became the 1895S. When they added the crossbolt safety, it became the 1895SS. It has absolutely nothing to do with stainless steel (in the 1895 series anyway). There are some VERY stout commercial loads for the 1895 series out nowdays. Buffalo Boar for instance has a 430 grainer at 1925 FPS, and a 405 at a little over 2K. These guns can handle some pretty stout stuff.

Hoss,

Welcome to the board, especially as another local! Quite a few of us try and meet at Rabbit Creek for lunch time shooting sessions. I know, just a tad too long of a drive from the base to squeze in a lunch time session.

The "SS" as in a Marlin 1895SS stands for Safety Sporter (or is it Sporter Safety,,,whichever) not Stainless Steel. I have one, it's a handy, even accurate lever-action thumper! They have a 22" barrel, pistol grip stock, next to nothing for a recoil pad and no porting.

As pointed out in a previous post, Marlin dropped the SS moniker from that particular variant of the 1895 as of late.

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BH1

"Did you use excessive force?---I HIT IT WITH EVERYTHING I HAD!

I think everybody is correct. The way I read it, Marlin has dropped the SS for the blue 1895 so that they can use it to mean stainless steel (on the 1894 for now).

Hart

ButchLadd:

I know this is going against the general theory of more is better in this forum, but I can tell you that if you shoot 300 grainers at 2150 f/s out of either a 1895SS or the GS and don't change the recoil pad and don't hold the gun fairly tightly you will be unpleasantly surprised. Unless you really need the extra speed for the game you are hunting, you will enjoy your Marlin a lot more IMO if you load the 300s between 1750 and 1850 f/s. I own 3 Marlin bigger bores, an 1895SS, an 1895GS, both in .45-70, and a .444. I like them, but I don't like them loaded really hot, since big bears are real scarce down in my section of the country.