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More assistance please.
24 July 2007, 17:21
ScottSMore assistance please.
When converting a M70 Classic, currently chambered in 300 Win mag, to a 416 Taylor will I run into any significant action reworking for feeding, etc? I am trying to understand what the budget will need to be for this project.
Thanks in advance.
24 July 2007, 20:50
CanuckI am not the guy to say as I have little knowlege in this area, but, my 416 Taylor was a 300 Win Mag (Browning BBR) and according to my 'smitty, it didn't take much effort to make it feed well (it even feed FN solids really well). The Winny doesn't have a lot of taper to it, and its otherwise the same case, so "in theory" I don't think this is likely to cause big problems.
But I defer to anyone that has actual experience with your situation.
Cheers,
Canuck
24 July 2007, 21:46
jeffeosso www.pac-nor.comcall them, tell them what you want, and they will give you a package price
24 July 2007, 22:32
Idaho SharpshooterCanuck,
people with experience in scotts's situation are called orderlies or guards.

Rich
DRSS
24 July 2007, 23:47
ScottSjeffeosso,
Thanks for the comments, but I really don't like shipping firearms if I can at all avoid it. Pacnor would definitely require shipping.
I was thinking of letting Gander Mountain do the work, what do you think?
Should I get a screw on muzzle brake installed just in case?
The Taylor will feed fine with no mods, and no you don't need a brake for the Taylor. Its a pussy cat.
25 July 2007, 03:21
Canuckquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Canuck,
people with experience in scotts's situation are called orderlies or guards.
Rich
DRSS
OK. I'll admit that one made me chuckle.

As far as feeding the trolls goes, I guess if I have something constructive to offer, I will. The infos available for anyone that chooses to read it. I don't see any upside in the continuing personal battle....nothing's changed in about 5 years (or more)...
Cheers,
Canuck
25 July 2007, 21:36
Hog Killerquote:
Originally posted by Canuck:
[....nothing's changed in about 5 years (or more)...
Cheers,
Canuck
His

user names have sure changed.
Keith
IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
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26 July 2007, 03:48
Idaho SharpshooterHogKiller,
don't be an enabler for this co-dependent moron.
Rich
DRSS
26 July 2007, 06:39
Canuckquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
HogKiller,
don't be an enabler for this co-dependent moron.
Rich
DRSS

Just so we are clear, are you calling me a "co-dependent moron" (since that is who HogKiller was adressing), or ScottS (who HogKiller was posting about)?
Canuck
26 July 2007, 07:16
ScottSIdahosharpshooter,
You seem to be my greatest enabler on this thread. After all you have posted the most times.
I really do not understand why people post off topic (personal attacks in this case). If they have nothing positive or constructive to say why say anything at all?
26 July 2007, 21:26
jeffeossochris, you are right, about 5 years!! LOL
scott,

Anyway, pac-nor is about $600, ITD will be about the same, both with bluing and sights...
So, you have your advice and price. Please don't post again until you have pictures of the rifle
your reluctance of shipping a firearm is HUGE question mark.... it raises many flags.

. mostly that you are being disingenious, as only a fake or a criminal is concerned about legally shipping firearms.
afterall, you had to ship "your" 416 rsm to be rebored.. and "your" 500 AHR was shipped...
the cost will be the same for a local smith, if he has to buy the reamer\
personal attacks and off topic posts? you are a master at them, I guess you don't like perceived competition
Here's a funny link, on the whole thing, to put it in perspective
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...?r=47710067#47710067LOL
axel, 500AHR, scotts, ted, posuer, assclown, judy, and about 10 other IDS are all the same person...
and in this thread, 500AHR states that Axel doesn't own a a500AHR...
26 July 2007, 21:38
ScottSJeffeosso,
This post is for your' and Rob's benefit alone.
I don't own any big bores, and I really don't think I could handle that 416 Taylor. That is why I won't be shipping anything to Pac-nor. I guess I am just jealous of you guys because you are both real mean who can shoot the big bores, and I am just a pathetic wimp/loser because I cannot.
You remember of course my one attempt at big bore shooting, the 50 Beowulf. I had to sell it because I simply could not handle it's substantial recoil, OUCH!
Do you feel better now?
I do have QuickLoad though, and Load from a Disk.
Now I suppose George will lock this thread up.
PS - I am not Axel, and I never was.
26 July 2007, 23:50
Canuckquote:
Jeffeosso,
This post is for your' and Rob's benefit alone.
I don't own any big bores, and I really don't think I could handle that 416 Taylor. That is why I won't be shipping anything to Pac-nor. I guess I am just jealous of you guys because you are both real mean who can shoot the big bores, and I am just a pathetic wimp/loser because I cannot.
You remember of course my one attempt at big bore shooting, the 50 Beowulf. I had to sell it because I simply could not handle it's substantial recoil, OUCH!
Do you feel better now?
ScottS: I really don't understand why you do that...it sure doesn't help.
IS (Since you are still "new"), RGB and Jeffe (who have been through this and heard my take on it MANY times over the MANY years this has gone on): Don't mistake any of my posts as support of ScottS or his behaviour. This is and has always been a situation where I support neither his activities (trolling), or yours (as troll police). My interest is, as it always has been, in the site. Period. The witch-hunt hasn't worked, and it never will. Banning doesn't change a thing...remember the multiple identities?? Has banning kept anyone else away (Carmelo, Cats, Mike375, Westpac, etc etc)??
IS: If you don't believe me, do a search on ToddE, 500AHR, POSeur, AssClown, Sniperfromthegrassyknoll, Judy, etc... You'll see my longstanding position on this.
Jeffe & Rob: I have clarified this a number of times, but I will bring it up again....you guys are mixing up "trolls".... ScottS is not Axel. You were dealing with multiple identities when you thought it was one. I don't have independent verification (I don't know either of them) but I am sure they are different guys.
Check out this thread and my posts, from 2003, to refresh your memories...
505 gibbs vs 500 AHRCheers,
Canuck
27 July 2007, 00:04
jeffeossoThanks Chris...
i should know better... i don't know why i don't act better...
i think i'll just put him on ignore and leave him there
jeffe
28 July 2007, 02:00
RobgunbuilderCanuck- Basically, the situation remains the same ever since he was ToddE.If Scotts's lips are moving he's lying. With repect to Axel if it wasn't Scott they were related entities working together with the same demented purposes. We have known that for years.
My issue with ScottS is that I actually fear that the moron in reality actually owns firearms and given his instability will someday emerge as a another TV documentary following some atrocity following a "meltdown". That may negatively effect me as I am a real firearms enthusiast and like being able to own guns in MY USA! This is one sick puppy we are dealing with and how you choose to deal with him does not matter a bit to me. I have simply studied its behaviour patterns and at the appropriate moment reveal its plans so that new members here are reminded of what we are dealing with and not fooled. I agree banning doesn't work. It is too bad that such a valuable site as this one is allowed to be manipulated by such "clowns". With that said it is the internet and we are the society that breeds these fools. -Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
28 July 2007, 02:42
Idaho SharpshooterCanuck,
the fact that you have to ask worries me just a teensy-weensy bit.

Rich
DRSS
28 July 2007, 02:46
Idaho Sharpshooterscotts,
what Robgunbuilder said!
Rich
DRSS
28 July 2007, 06:49
RobgunbuilderCanuck- Chris your a good guy and I have always liked you. One piece of advice, don't try and polish this turd (scotts)!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
28 July 2007, 08:23
Idaho SharpshooterCanuck & RGB,
are you two enabling again?
Rich
DRSS
28 July 2007, 13:24
Bent FossdalRich, Rob - I have learned to respect you and have no problem seeing this ass have been a clown over the years.
But kids grow up.
Like with a dog, one have to applaude correct behaviour to make it work.
As long as he asks normal questions and behaves, will not positive answers maybe educate this person?
That you, after so many years of crap will not do it, is understandable, but I also understand and respect Canuck for dealing with him in a serious manner as long as he behaves.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
28 July 2007, 14:49
Idaho SharpshooterBent,
the issue is not the initial post(s)...it's where they lead.
Like this last series: was looking for advice on options building a 416 Taylor. Wood or synthetic, what type of sights, barrel contour and length, etc. So, some people take it serious, like this is really going to happen.
Two or three days worth and a thread six pages long, and he announces that recoil bothers him, and that he will probably NEVER take step one. He's also never had any sort of DGR.
It's just a game to see how many different people he can get to buy in before he bails out wit some sort of lame excuse.
Do you play poker? This is like playing poker for chips and no money involved. It's a waste of time and everybody ends up crabby over the deal because nobody takes it seriously.
There just are never any consequences...
Ever wrestle with a pig? After an hour you're worn out, and then you realize the pig enjoys it! The attention!
Rich
DRSS
28 July 2007, 21:12
RobgunbuilderBent- Watch how this plays out! It's just replay 4 of the same old game. Sooner or later you'll get to see the real ScottS. Now it is possible he is the "alter ego" of another board member here. I can't tell for sure, but I have done some "writing style" word match, exercises that make me believe this is a distinct possibility. The internet enables people to become what they are not in real life. However, ScottS has been consistently a moron ever since his behaviour was first criticized as ToddE many years ago. We have had a fair number of such Trolls over the years and a fair number of "heated debates" all in all though we get along and I think have gotten a whole lot of people who otherwise would be scared off into shooting big bore rifles. I for one reject the idea that ScottS will change and I continue to find him pathetic.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!