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Whats the best value
17 March 2006, 00:27
mark65x55Whats the best value
in a 375 H&H today, with the winchester selling so high? I don't want to debate the old PF vs CRF thing, I've owned both and now have 2 remingtons. I realize there is something to be said about having all your guns setup alike but I hear the new remingtion XCRs are pretty lightweight and a 8 pound 375 don't sound like fun to me. What I would love is a 375 H&H, with iron sights, 24" barrel, matte finish in a good McMillan stock, weighing around 9 pounds or so without scope, say 10+ pounds all up. Something I could use in Alaska and Africa. Oh, yeah and while we're at it under $1k. So how do I get there from here?
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17 March 2006, 00:39
500grainsThe best value in a 375 H&H?
Probably a used custom Mauser or Win. Sometimes you can get one for half of what it cost to build. Here is one for $7K that would cost at least $20K to duplicate:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun.../397301_tasto375.jspYou could also try out a Kimber such as this:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976565712.htmAnd there is always the Blaser R93 with plastic stock for $2300.
17 March 2006, 00:41
tiggertateUnder 1K, I'd find a good used Whitworth for around $700-$800 and put some extra weight in the stock. I doubt you'll get into a McMillan though unless you just get lucky.
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17 March 2006, 00:43
Snowwolfe8 pound 375 H&H unscoped is really not considered a lightweight. My Rem Custom shop 375 weighs 6 pounds 10 ounces.
One option would be to buy a used CZ and then add the syn stock you like. I doubt if your goal of under 1k is reasonable as a McMillan stock will run you 435-450 new.
A good barrel will run you 300-500 installed. Buying a rifle and then having it rebarreled and restocked will put you well over 1k. Your 1k limit will pretty much restrict you to finding a used 375.
Or you can forget the McMillan and buy a Win 70 stainless 375 H&H. They are still around for sale.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
17 March 2006, 00:56
vapodoggo to the gun shows and get one used.....
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17 March 2006, 00:59
JohnTheGreekWait out the Winchester hysteria! Failing that, I think you are gonna have to be cruising the want-ads and gun shows....but you will find one for under $1K.
JMHO,
John
old Sakos on FN actions are out there<1k.lot of value for the money.saw one punched out to WM for $ 880.
17 March 2006, 01:20
mark65x55Anyone seen a good used whitworth lately?
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17 March 2006, 01:25
tiggertatefla3006 just picked up a cherry 458 at the Houston gun show for a song. All soldered sights, no screws. They're still out there if you hunt.
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17 March 2006, 01:27
PeterCZ. Mine cost well under $1K
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17 March 2006, 01:29
Savage99Of course it's easy to sit here with enough Winchesters but I would wait but be ready with the cash. It seems as if all the usual sources know that there is a frenzy over what you want except perhaps some individual who needs or wants to dispose of a gun.
It's like hunting.
Those Whitworth 375's can be a nice gun and I have seen them go for $750 at dealers. I don't think they are too light as long as it has a good pad.
Here is one that looks nice. I would grab it.
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17 March 2006, 01:39
mark65x55Thanks, saw it and e-mailed the seller just after he posted it. Its been a slooow day at work.
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17 March 2006, 03:00
gixxerShit, that didnt take long!
17 March 2006, 03:52
jeffeossounder 1k?
i would probably still go with the CZ, then the whitworth only if it was the express, then all of the interarms varirants..
okay, so what I would really do is build a super cool 376 steyr on a nice action, but that wasn't really your questions, was it?
under 1k? i think you could get a stainless MRC and barrel, and a used winchester long action stock... and have the stainless "gunkote"d for that price
jeffe
17 March 2006, 06:17
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
The best value in a 375 H&H?
Probably a used custom Mauser or Win. Sometimes you can get one for half of what it cost to build. Here is one for $7K that would cost at least $20K to duplicate:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun.../397301_tasto375.jspYou could also try out a Kimber such as this:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976565712.htm.
500 grains
thanks for the links I always appreciate seeing a nice crf rifle!
17 March 2006, 06:52
Robgunbuilder.375 browning A-bolt Safari- inexpensive but deadly accurate.-Rob
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17 March 2006, 08:09
The MetalsmithI agree with jeffeosso, a CZ is a good idea. They're pretty hefty and a pleasure to shoot, especially in .375 H&H. I nailed a duck at 120 yards with mine. Strongly recommended
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17 March 2006, 09:49
WhitworthBang for the buck in a new rifle? CZ all the way IMHO.
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17 March 2006, 10:48
cobradIn case you are interested, there is a NIB Remington Custom Shop stainless mtn rifle in 375 for sale at auctionarms.com. I had to think twice about not just keeping my mouth shut and bidding on it, but my own custom Remington should be coming home in a few weeks as a .358 STA, and I just bought a Remmy custom shop stainless .458 Win mag. I don't need the .375, but damn, I sure do want it!

17 March 2006, 12:30
ZupspoonI bought a .375 H&H Remington stainless synthetic and had KDF install a muzzle brake due to the light weight. Shoots great, the weather won't hurt it, and if I remember correctly the total cost was under $900.
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17 March 2006, 14:20
D HunterLooks like on the other link he bought a winchester SS/S for 600$. I think it was NIB. Maybe he will post and let us know how it shoots. Congrats.
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17 March 2006, 17:30
mark65x55Yep, D Hunter is right. Looks like the 375 gods have smiled on me. I found and bought a new Winchester Stainless for $600.
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17 March 2006, 20:52
cobradA new Winny for $600 and a lady that hunts with you? Brother you must be living right. I looked for a rifle like yours before Winny announced their departure, and the best I could do was $760.GOOD FIND! I checked out your hunting pics. Looks like you folks had a good time. Thanks for sharing them.
17 March 2006, 22:52
SnowwolfeThats an amazing deal for your new SS W70 in 375. I have watched a few on Gunbrokers going for just over a $1,000. Great catch!
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
You will have to pay more than $1K but I would try to stretch my budget to get a pre 64 model 70 or an older Browning Safari. If you look hard, you will eventually find these for about $1500.
18 March 2006, 16:39
mark65x55And maybe not!!! I think the owner has found out he under priced the rifle. Hes trying to back out of the deal, that or wants more money We'll see how it plays out but it aint looking good.
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19 March 2006, 03:04
hysiderWell, Mark, just think if you wouldn't sold me that
Mc Millan stock you would still have one!
Hope the deal works out for you!
Charlie
19 March 2006, 07:28
mark65x55So far me and a 375 just haven't gotten along. A few years ago I bought a whitworth, planning to do some hunt with it, that I don't even recall now, the hunt didn't happen and I found a guy who wanted it more that I did. Then last year I bought a winchester that was stamped "stainless", funny thing was the barrel kept rusting. Come to find out it wasn't stainless after all but chrome moly. The guy I bought it from took it back and it went back to winchester. So while all that was going on I decided, yet agian, I really didn't need a 375 and sold the stock to you. Now a year later here I am again looking for...you guessed it a three-seven-five.

Maybe the next one will stick.
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19 March 2006, 07:32
mark65x55Oh, BTW, the guy e-mailed me this afternoon and said shipping it wasn't worth the hassle. He'd found a local buyer. Well, color me surprised. Oh, well at least I didn't send him any money.
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19 March 2006, 08:34
surestrikequote:
Originally posted by mark65x55:
Anyone seen a good used whitworth lately?
There was a really nice one in a .375H&H set up in a synthetic stock over at the Firing Line in Aurora CO about 2 weeks ago.
19 March 2006, 14:01
JohnTheGreekquote:
Originally posted by mark65x55:
Oh, BTW, the guy e-mailed me this afternoon and said shipping it wasn't worth the hassle.
What a dick!
JMHO,
John
Can you guys give me more info on the Whitworth? I don't know anything about it. Might be a good back up for me ?