I have heard numerous references on this site regarding this manufacturer including their softs, solids and cups.

I just reviewed their website and only find softs advertised. Could this be due to their website not being updated or what?

I know they are truly respected for their big bore bullets, how about their medium bore bullets; enough better to pay the premium?

Mike does answer emails pretty quickly if he isn't out of town. Yes, I just bought some cup point solids and got the info from him via email and phone. He lives only a bit north of me, so I received the bullets overnight via the USPS, believe it or not! As I recall, he sent me some pictures of these other bullets, too.

I have only used the .404/380gr, would really like some 340gr, Mike has promised. The work exactly as shown on the site & I have no doubt the other calibers are equally as accurate & perform just as well. Only you can decide if premiums are worth it. I use NPs & NFs for hunting, it makes me feel better.

You are right that Mike doesn't have the CPs on the site, but he may have what you want--- email as stated or call him --he is very reponsive and will tell you what he has available--he even does a small pack of 4 or so that he sells for you to load up to make sure they will feed in your gun, so you don't go and buy a bunch of his bullets and then feel that you've been taken to the cleaners--super nice guy---chris

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Originally posted by fredj338:
I have only used the .404/380gr, would really like some 340gr, Mike has promised. The work exactly as shown on the site & I have no doubt the other calibers are equally as accurate & perform just as well. Only you can decide if premiums are worth it. I use NPs & NFs for hunting, it makes me feel better.

Fred You might find out what the magic number is for Mike. Usually he will make a run of specialty bullets if he has a gauranteed sale of a certian quantity of bullets. If you are looking to put together a batch of the 340's let me know as they shoot real well in my rifle and I may can find a home for a couple a hundred. Thanks

DH, let him know. He has me down for 150-200 so it sounds like he is going to make them again soon, I hope.

Best bullet going..I have used his softs, flat point solids and cuppoints on a lot of game including many Buffalo...I flat love those cup points...

Does anyone have pics or a link for the flat and cup points? I was just checking out the site and those soft points look like a fantastic design. I'm interested in trying them one of these days.

What is the difference between the soft points and the cup point?

The cup point is a solid copper frusto-conical design with a hemispherical hollow point cut in the nose. I have used them on game and they penetrate very deeply, expland reasonably, and retain all of their weight. Unlike the Barnes X, there are no petals to break off and make your bullet fly off in the wrong direction. The cup point is a driving band design, so it engrages on the rifling with very little pressure, thereby decreasing copper fouling and increasing accuracy. All things considered, I think it is the absolute best expanding bullet for heavy game such as buffalo, giraffe and eland.

Question for North Fork: When will the cup point be available as a standard production item for the general public to purchase?

.35 Cal 250 North forks from a Whelen.
Unfired, gemsbok, warthog, blue wildebeest, eland.

I posted a bunch of cup points that I took out of dead buffalo sometime back but I have no clue how to find them..someone else posted them for me, probably Nick..

Heres one Ray. Mike pointed out that these were experimental designs and the final product might be a bit different.

Another view.

KevinNY; What was the aprox range on the 35 Whelen bullets. Thanks Maddog

From 40 to 90 yards. The gemsbok bullet entered the rear end and made it all the way to the front of the chest. Same for the warthog. The wildebeest was 90 yards facing me, entered brisket, through spine, found in rear quarter. Eland was 45 yards on the run quartering away, broke opposite shoulder and was just under the skin. I put one straight through a zebra and an impala.

Thanks Kevin I had forgotten who posted those pictures for me, age you know!!

Those Northfork cup point bullets are 404 and 470s that I dug out of Buffalo I shot last year..I have never used a better bullet on Buffalo and they worked great on plainsgame..I also shot some Northfork solids but they whizzed off to the Sudan and came to rest somewhere near the North Pole before punching out a glacier or two...Never recover those flat nose solids from Northfork, GS or Bridger..The Bridger out penitrated any solid I have ever used but alas the are no longer, fortunatly I have a supply of them that I am preserving for elephant only....

Hi All: The last time I talked to Mike, I thought he only made one bullet type or style? The question came up because I was trying a load program that listed several styles...I contacted Mike & if my memory is correct...he said he made just one type of bullet?
Anyway, all of my comparison tests in the medium bores, say .30 & .35 have shown better accuracy than any other makes, including Swifts, etc.
Best Regards, Tom

Apparantly he has expanded..He and I talked a lot about a expanded solid and Mike got to mulling it around in his head and came up with these cup points, sent me some to pop some buffalo with and I was astounded at how damn good a bullet he had produced, a bullet that did everything a soft and solid could do...expanded a bit less than a soft and penitrated a bit less than a solid, and that is a perfect Buffalo bullet...It still goes through them from about any angle except end to end and expands enough to do an awful lot of internal damage that a solid doesn't...

He also has flat nose solids and I tested them for Mike in Africa two years running and you will be hard pressed to recover one of those babies, unless you have a somali in a red fezz standing in the middle of the Sudan with a catchers glove on and a total lack of fear!

Yup, and those sample packs are a pretty good idea too. When I make the call on monday, I am gonna get a sample pack of cup points for load testing with a batch of 250SS for my .375. Those piggies have no idea what is coming. Although the NF's don't need to be driven too fast, the thought of those 250s at 3000FPS is pretty cool. Can you say flat shooting?