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23 August 2005, 17:53
ALF
404 Jeffery info urgently needed:
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23 August 2005, 18:13
husky
ALF,
Very very interesting!
Don't forget Ken Stewarts Core Bonded Custom Bullets!


Husky




23 August 2005, 18:59
D Humbarger
ALF,

Sounds as though this is going to be a "must read". Good Luck. thumb



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23 August 2005, 20:05
fla3006
Yes, I'll be interested too as there seems to be several variations, chambers, bore diameters, etc., before I embark upon an expensive 404 project.


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23 August 2005, 20:14
500grains
.404 Jeffery bullets

HUNTING BULLETS

Hawk bullets http://www.hawkbullets.com – pure copper jacket, pure lead core
North Fork Technolgies http://www.northforkbullets.com solid shank bonded, flat nose solid, cup nose solid
GS Custom http://www.gscustom.go.za – FN solids and HV softs
A-Square Company http://www.a-squarecompany.com – solids, softs, brass, bullets
Woodleigh http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au FMJ solids and bonded softs
Barnes http://www.barnesbullets.com X bullets and brass solids
Swift http://www.swiftbullets.com – bonded core partition style
TCCI (Thunderbird Cartridge) – http://www.tbirdammo.com – brass solids, will probably make a run of bullets if you ask
Bridger bulles http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/ - Brass FN solids
Rhino bullets http://www.rhinobullets.co.za/specifications.htm - brass solids, .425" rather than .423"


PRACTICE BULLETS (cast):

Wayne Doudna cast bullets http://www.customcastbullets.com/
Bear Tooth cast bullets http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm
Martin Potts - ??? Supposedly offers home made bullets in a variety of calibers.


RELOADING COMPONENTS AND AMMO:

A lot of the reloading components and ammo links on http://www.nitroexpress.com support .404 Jeffery. Click here: http://forums.nitroexpress.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=linksammo



AND just for fun, check out the bullets here:

http://www.roc-import.com/gb/gpa/gpa_calibers.php (no .423 but interesting)
23 August 2005, 20:57
gringo_pistolero
quote:
Originally posted by ALF:
Gentlemen

As I have indicated some time ago We are collaberating on a publication regarding the history of the 404 Jeffery much in line with the monograph on the 500 Jeffery.


Where can I get a copy of the500 Jeffery monograph? Confused
23 August 2005, 21:39
ALF
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24 August 2005, 07:05
lawndart
I have the pessure testing equipment, and can have it calibrated with the equipment at a major US manufacturer. I also have a minimum spec 404 reamer. I don't have a test barrel. If anyone has an old barrel that I could turn back, rechamber and fit to my test action I would be happy to measure some "modern loads". It should be possible to increase velocities over the traditional ones and stay below the CIP specs with some of the newer powders (all of which I have on the shelf).
lawndart

http://www.huntingtons.com/ for brass, bullets and dies.


24 August 2005, 15:34
<JOHAN>
500grains

RWS makes ammo for the 404 Jeffery. http://www.rws-munition.de/de/jagd_patronen/anwendungsberater.htm?navid=10

Anyone heard when federal will run the 404 Jeffery?

Cheers
/JOHAN
24 August 2005, 16:49
Jonathan Tomlinson
Alf

Looks like you have got info a plenty on sources for components.

If you wished for any original nomenclature on the history or origin of the .404 including all modifications undertaken on the round then drop David little a line at Kynamco (Kynoch ammunition in the U.K.). David has in his possession all the original Eley/Kynoch cartridge drawings and blue prints and presently offers new manufactured Kynoch ammo.

This will provide you with the definitive information you require
24 August 2005, 18:48
ALF
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25 August 2005, 08:07
lawndart
BTW,
Please put my name down for a copy of this book.
Thanks,

lawndart


25 August 2005, 17:25
Jonathan Tomlinson
Alf

Looks like you have certainly done your homework. I suugested David as he is a friend and I am aware of the records he keeps.

Another source for information, and one I am sure you have thought out is via the cartridge collectors associations. I am aware that in the US there is the International Ammunition Association (or similar, apologies if I have got the title incorrect.)

Here in the U.K we have the ECRA (European Cartridge Research Association) they have a web site and a message could be posted, possibly to a Tony Williams, he has a great knowledge base and either himself or via a know contact could provide further info you may not yet possess.

Good luck with the project, if you ever do a similar one on the .600 .N.E please let me know.

Regards

Jonathan
25 August 2005, 19:00
ALF
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