I hinted to this in my 10.6X52R wildcatted MN rifle thread.

I am thinking of having the barrel, seen in the proceeding pic, rebored to 0.411" and chambered in 405 Win. If you know what the barrel is for you will understand why some might consider this a twisted project. Personally, I think it would be cool. Looks like I can 20 rounds in the magazine, maybe even more, I only have 20, 405 Winnies loaded up right now.



Anyway, let me have it. Does this "idea" place me into the "mentally ill, in need of immediate professional help catagory", or do you agree with me that it is cool.

Scott

Here is shot of the a magazine for the rifle filled with 20 405 Winchester cartridges. Those are 300 gr Hornady FP at a COL of 3.165". That is a 30-06 on the right and a 6" scale on the left. There is another magazine for the rifle on the left as well.



I think this would be a serious, and I mean serious pig gun!

Scott

It looks like feeding issues to be resolved to me. Your right, it should be a fun gun.

Having been accused of being insane myself ... and having attempted various conversions of both the AR-15 and AR-10, let me offer these thoughts:

Rimmed cases are a pain .... and when you go to straightwall, trying to feed from a mag like this, they tend to be an even bigger pain. The 44 Mag in the AR15 was such a disaster, 3 working rifles were built.

The magazine and barrel look familiar and as such, the rimmed case might work. But why not try the 400 Whelen AI? Easier to come by in terms of brass, and should give similar performance. And you may not need any new reamers, this one should be out there already, someone is bound to have done the AI of the 400 Whelen.

Good luck, and mercy be with the pigs

Here's my opinion, Scott.


Another load of your bullshit! I wish I had a dollar for every great project you CLAIM you are starting. Somehow they never get finished, do they Scott?

If you want a REAL new project, learn to tell the truth.

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Isn't there some sort of pill for pathological liars? I'll tell you boys, this Scott fellow is a sick puppy. He needs our help!

Marty,

I figured you would recognize those peices. I don't want to have to change out bolts, just barrels. This means I need a rim diameter of ~ 0.54". Perhaps a 404 Jeffery Short. The 405 is a bit wide at the mouth to feed reliably from the stock magazines. I think if I split the magazine and remove the forward bead (depression in the side of the magazine) I can solve the width issue.

Do you have any interesting wildcats in the .416 - .458 range with a COL of 3.15" and a rim diameter of .54"? Perhaps, we could cook something up in the future?

Scott

Bren gun?

This implies that you own a functioning Bren gun, not just a parts kit or a DEWAT. Date-stamped photos of the gun firing would help everyone to believe that.

What is a DEWAT?

Scott

DEWAT means Deactivated War Trophy.

Scott, why dont you make a 458 winmag or 416 talor outta a vz 24or something?

smallfry,

Two reasons:

1) Been there, done that.

2) Too easy.

Regards,
ScottS

Now I can understand the "been there done that" but I am not sure what you mean by too easy? When Building a custom rifle, a person could not put too much skill or thought into perfection of the rifle. I kinda look at it as a maturation process. Now a guy would have to stop at some point, but if you have already made a rifle to that degree of skill, why not take it to "the next level" whatever that might be? I am not flaming anyone... just never heard of art,skill,metalsmithing, and rifle building being too easy. Maybe I am missing your point or something.

Smallfry, please don't hold your breath for this pathological lair ScottS to "complete" a project. He never completes anything but BS posts here on AR. He's never been anywhere or done anything. The last 2 weeks alone he has babbled about 4 separate "new projects" and I suppose by next week we shall see him announce a few more. Hahahahaha

Pure bullshit.

Hey, ScottS! Show us the 500 AHR project from last year.

Marty, I have 2 80% castings and 1 0% forging I,m working on in spare time. Do you know of a list for the states that allow form 1 mg's for post 1986 mg's ?
It's my understanding that you must have a manufacture's license to build and own a mg that is built after 1986.

Smallfry,

I am not an engraver, and I do not desire to be. Nor am I a stocker, and I do not desire to be. I am not being a smart ass, just telling it how it is. However, as I see it, these are the only two areas in which Mauser rifles require any great degree of craftsman skill. I consider Mauser rifles are relatively easy to build. The reason being, all the parts one needs to build a top notch mauser rifle (metal wise anyway) are readily available on the aftermarket (triggers, bottom metal, etc). So mausers, to me anyway, are all about assembling an assortment of purchased components, not about making things from scratch, etc, etc. Assembly of parts is not, typically, too aweful difficult.

This was the reason for the Mosin Nagant project, which will most likely commence sometime this spring. There are few if any "off the shelf" parts for the MN. Therefore, the challenge level of a truly "custom" MN rifle is much greater than it is with a Mauser rifle.

By the way, I am not going to do anything with the barrel I pictured earlier. I shall leave it stock.

Marty, have you considered adapting any of your big bore auto-loader wildcats to the FAL platform.

Scott