I just got both dies yesterday. The quality looks great and the .600 OK dies size the brass properly. Progress is beign made.-Rob

Hi Rob,
Sounds like there will be some kind of shooting gong on. Good news another fellow just let me know his dies arrived also. Canuck and the others should be getting theirs soon as well. Let me know how you make out with loads.
Take care,
470 Mbogo

I got my 470 Mbogo dies today.

A 3 die set, but no lock nuts on any of the dies, and the lettering on one of the die bodies is really mangled. Hopefully the insides are better than the outsides of these dies.

The threads on the dies (1" x 14) are larger than the standard reloading dies (7/8" x 14) , but smaller than the 50 BMG die threads (1.5" x12).

I now need a bushing to make them fit the AmmoMaster press, a bushing that I don't have as yet. I need a 1.5x12 to 1x14 thread reducing bushing.

I sent an e-mail to the manufacturer asking what gives with the lack of lock nuts.

This is my first experience with this make of dies, CH4D, and I hope I don't find anything else wrong.

The rifle is being blued, and the QualCart brass is still in never-never land.

My lock rings were in a small separate package and I almost lost them myself. I know that you need 1 inch dies for the 500 jeff/585 NYATI/600 OK cases,but don't understand why it's needed for the 470 MBOGO. The 416 Rigby is normally done on 7/8X14 tpi dies. Yup, those 1.5X12tpi to 1X14tpi reducing bushings can be a problem to find. Try Huntingtons. If you don't have any luck send me an E-mail and I can probably knock one out for you. I've got some suitable stock. I've waited about 6 months for these dies myself. Ch4D like all the custom Die makers are really backed up. I called RCBS and they only wanted $450 and a 6 month wait for the 470 MBOGO's. Talk to 470 MBOGO about cases, he probably has some he'd part with. The other option is make em from .416 basic brass from Mast Technologies. If worst comes to worst you can make a short necked MBOGO out of .416 Rigby brass or even 450 Rigby by seating a .475 cast bullet out far enough that it seats into the lands and using a very slow powder like H50BMG blowing the shoulder foreward. while this may sound horrible to you, it works and the trick is to find a slow enough powder to get enough pressure to just move the shoulder. Without the bullet just touching the lands, you will not get the primer to light off as there is nothing to headspace on. The resultant poorly fireformed cartridge will work, but the neck will be about .040 short. you may also have to do a second fireforming operation, this time with a much more powerfull load. -Rob

RGB,
At least they packed your lock nuts along separately in the box. All I got was the foam packing peanuts, an invoice, and the box of dies (sans lock nuts) inside the cardboard mailing box.

Dave Davison got an e-mail right back to me saying that he would send the missing lock nuts, and they can supply the bushing I need.

We shall see.

It is great that he can turn out these dies for the 470 Mbogo at such a reasonable price, and as quickly as he did.

Sounds like lots of boomers on in the works.

Mike's 470mbogo dies are in transit, and he ordered (i had to urge him) 20 rigby basic brass from qaul cart, and then placed an order for his 470 brass. Crud, I might have forgotten to tell him to get a bushin!!! I sent him an email to check

My 500 jeffe dies (TiN coated expander and sizer die) are HERE. The stock is about 98% finished, and 95% done... I still have some finish inletting to do(new bottom metal, etc), but I drilled the pilot holes for the xbolts last night. Oh, yeah, I opened the boltface(.578) wednesday, and yesterday I headspaced and cut the extractor. still haven't even begun to work on feeding.

Jeffe

[ 01-03-2003, 22:37: Message edited by: jeffeosso ]

Don't worry DaggaRon, Dave at CH Tool has what you need. His bushings work great, are great quality, and his dies are a great value. I needed the bushing for my 1" .577 Snider Dies he made a few months back and my 1" T-Rex dies that are 'in transit' now.

Also, our mutual friend is starting my project now as a belt loostening check arrived to him last week.

BMG

ps. I'll be in AL deer hunting for 5 days later next week and am bringing the:
.577 T-Rex with 650gr Woodleighs BP @ 2300fps
.50 BMG with 750gr A-Max @ 2800fps
.50 BMD with 750gr A-Max @ 1525fps
I'll let you know what happens...

My 450 Rigby dies from CH4D has the standard threading and lockrings where included.

I must agree that the outer finnish was not the best I'v seen BUT remember that you pay much less for CH4D than other (RCBS, Redding) dies.

You have to put it in perspective. I made a set of dies last week for one of my projects. It took me 8 hrs on a manual Lathe. I've deceided to make my own dies at this point because I just don't have the patience anymore. Besides internal taper turning is challenging to an amateur like me! At even $50/hr thats a $400 set of dies. Heat treating is $60( overnight service). No one except the most desparate would pay that much although I'm sure that's why RCBS is charging so much for one-of custom dies. Luckily, I do this for fun not out of necessity. Dave has to set-up and program his CNC Lathes and for what we are paying believe me it's a steal! I got him to make up 10 sets of 600 OK dies and I believe that all but one set are now spoken for.-Rob

Is the rumour true that orthopaedic and opthalmic surgeons have a financial interest in the 620 Overkill

Mike

My 600 dies arrived yesterday as well (with lock rings). Now I just need to puchase a big press to use them in Is the Ammomaster the way to go?

Mike,
In addition the 600 should be a chiropractors and osteos wet dream, especially for those of us that already have a wrecked back

John

[ 01-04-2003, 01:06: Message edited by: JKS ]

JKS- Make sure you get an adapter. Yes the old ammo master is the way to go. -Rob

I haven't been home yet to check, but hopefully my dies arrived also. I asked Dave about an adapter for the 50BMG ammomaster press, and he was going to send a bushing with my set. I think it was only $15 for the bushing.
Does anybody know where I can get a shellholder for the 600ok(on ammomaster press)?
Mark

The ammomaster has a std shellholder threaded stud with a slot for std shellholders. Use the 585 NYATI shellholder. Again Huntingtons or CH4D has them. You could also use a shellholder for the 505 Gibbs, but the rim thicknesses are slightly different.-Rob

Hi guys let me know about the 600 O K dies looking to get a gun and will need the dies also
Thanks

My dies are here!

My dies are here!

My dies are here!

My dies are here!

My dies are here!

Hooo-haaah!

My dies arrived today! With lock nuts!

Good ol' Dave Davison at CH4D got the missing lock nuts to me pronto, they arrived today. Just six days after the original package, and less than 6 days after my e-mail to him.

Dave also threw in the thread adapter bushing I needed for the AmmoMaster press, NO CHARGE!

Great guy, that Dave at CH4D!

http://www.ch4d.com/

Great service at CH4D.

I am ready to load as soon as I get the brass from Quality Cartridge. 470 Mbogo brass is listed on the Qual Cart web site, as coming soon.

http://www.owlnet.com/quality/headstamp.htm

[ 01-09-2003, 09:00: Message edited by: DaggaRon ]

RAB,
I had mike order 20 rounds of rigby basic... like $25, for cylindrical(sp) brass... just enough for him to play with, until the 470 brass comes in.

form, fireform, bang, cases..

thoughts?>
jeffe

Jeffe,
Yep, I will do that. It will be good to have some BeLL basic cases to beat around with. As Qual Cart is making their stuff from the BeLL brass, the load data should interchange between the two.

I'm gonna shoot my 470 Mbogo this weekend! I need to do some penetration tests and big bore comparos. Dave will kill me otherwise.-Rob

Finally got my dies too. Customs ripped 'em apart and charged me a small fortune, but I got 'em.

Now I just have to wait for a bushing. Man, I wish he'd mentioned that when I ordered them.

Canuck

Just looked at my ancient RCBS press. No bushing. Man, I really wish Dave had mentioned they wouldn't be 7/8"x14 when I ordered those dies!

Canuck

Most of the big bore cartridges are built on 1 inch dies. There just isn't any metal left in 7/8 dies., 600 Overkill, 505 Gibbs, 585 NYATI, 500AHR,470MBOGO all are built on the 1 inchX14 tpi die bodies. The bigger issue in my mind is that their really are very few options in reloading presses. The ammomaster with a .50BMG kit is the least expensive way to go. It's less than ideal IMHO.n Personally, I like the 1.5X12tpi dies for the .50BMG class cases.-Rob

Ya, I'm bummed. 470Mbogo's RCBS dies were 7/8" and fit nicely in my press when he was up hunting this fall. I ran a few cases through just to make sure my old press would do the job. I just assumed these would be the same. Its my first "real" big bore, eh.

Canuck