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<konst>
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Hey @ all.
As I wrote some time ago, i �m looking for a good versatile bullet for my .375H&H for use on european Game.

Because my gun came with a package of RWS KS ammo, i want to give them a chance, and then want to give some selfloads a chance.
Now the question:
How "meat-destroying" is the NOSLER Partition or the Barnes X if the bullet graps a bone, like for example the shoulder bone or the neck?
I�m asking therefore, because the meat destroy of the KS is not even small.As i skinned the boar,which i shot some days ago,i was very surprised. The shot went right through the spine. And the KS bullets fragmented so high, that the meat is pushed through and trough with a lot of lead-splinter from the bullet .
No question, the shock-effect was A+, but the bullet works like a grenade if its get a bone to grab.
How does the Partition,BarnesX (Hornady Interlock,Swift A-Frame.....) "behave if you hit a bone?
If you have the time to tell me about your(good and bad) experiences with different type of bulletts, i�ld appreciate it .

Thanks in advance to your replies,
a nice new years eve to you,
Konstantin

 
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Konst I do not have a .375 but have a .416 I am loading woodleigh projectiles and they hang together real well and I do not fragment easily and give good penetration. I am now using them for three calibres 45/70, .416 and 30/06. I have not tried the .416 projectiles yet but when shooting tougher game with the other two calibres I use them. Give them a go if there availble in Germany there my favourites.

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I haven't shot much game with my .375 that's as small as boar except for one feral pig when I first got it and a couple of impala on my first safari. I have always used Nosler Partitions in almost all of my rifles, at least those that Nosler makes bullets for . . . Though in some of the lighter bullet weights and smaller calibers the PT has a tendency to blow off the nose and then keep on traveling, in the .375 they seem to hang together quite well. I always get complete penetration with a gaping exit hole but in no case has there been any particular bloodshot meat except right around the wound channel. Admittedly, I have been fortunate to either nail rib cage or neck when using this caliber and in neither case would there be much damage anyway but I suspect that either the Nosler or the Swift would give you the results you want.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by konst:
Hi Konst,
I've shot game with the Barnes X in 416 caliber as well as the smaller calibers. One of the benefits that I've found with the Barnes is the very little amount of meat damage. I hit a Deer last year and thought he was further away than he was so I aimed high and hit high. The bullet went through bone and didn't destroy any meat other than the bullet path. My buddy shot his Buffalo with a 375 Weatherby with 300 grain Barnes X bullets with no meat damage either. The eat right up to the bullet hole seems to work with the Barnes X more than any other bullet that I've tried. 470 Mbogo
 
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konst,

What is the weight of the KS bullets you were using? I've shot both hogs and small blacktail deer with regular ole 270gr Remington Corelokts. Meat damage was minor even when hitting bone.

 
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Hey Konst

I have never used a KS, but I know for sure that they destroy a lot of meat. They are known because of that here in Norway. I have never used a .375 on any game, but I have used some different bullets in 6,5 x 55, 30-06, .338 Win M. and the last 3 years the .338-06 Acl. imp. I mostly hunt moose and reindeer and a litle roe-deer.

H. Interlock bullets: Seems to work very well on any Norvegian game, but it is important to use a rather heavy bullet for the cailber, to achieve penetration. Meat destruktion I would say is medium.

The Barnes X never separate more than the 4 "blades" in the front, giving a enormous penetration. It is important to use bullets that are not of the heavyest for the caliber, due to the length of these bullet and following problems with stability in the air/(branches in the bullet track..)/inside the animal. For the .375 H&H I feel it would be right to use a bullet with a maximum weight around 270 gr. Lighter bullets can be used on smaller game like reindeer and "hirt". When using ligther bullets you can get better velocity, giving better chock to the animal. My experience is that velocity is relatively important when using these bullets.

Now adays i mostly use the Swift A-frame. I know that I kan get no better bullet for any purposes where a expanding bullet is requiered - hunting big game where the meat are to be eaten. It expands slowly and controled, giving small to moderate damages to the meat and very good penetration. Myself I have used it on 15 - 20 moose�s and watched the bullets work in another 20. This automn I watched my brother fiering a .375 cal., 300 gr. A-frame, that went all the way trough a grown moose from the front to back, giving a "blody mess...". (The moose only went some metres after the shot).

If I could recomend a bullet I would chose the A-frame. But I also know that there are a lot of other good big-game bullets, like the Woodleigh, Trophy Bonded, Hirtenberger ABC (Perhapes not in .375?), Nosler partition, BX, Speer Grand Slam, Winch. Fail safe.

Good luck!
Ola


 
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hey,just got back from hunting,..amd now - it�s 1 o�clock in the early morning - i�m real tyred.
I �ll check the answers above tomorrow, and will be back with two more news .
Sleep well,
konstantin
 
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Konstantin,
There are some pictures and comparisons here http://gunlinks.zibycom.com/members/002245268/Site2/meat.html

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Originally posted by Finley:
konst,

What is the weight of the KS bullets you were using? I've shot both hogs and small blacktail deer with regular ole 270gr Remington Corelokts. Meat damage was minor even when hitting bone.


hey finely,
the bullet weight is 300grains.
cheers
konst

 
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As i promised, now two more news
Went out this weekend to look after some hogs.
On saturday night, i was sitting on a place, that looks like to give me a good chance on boars.
After some time, i heared aome boares in the woods,..and 5 minutes later they came out the shelter of the small and densy forest.
It was a group of three ( we call the boares �BERL�UFER, that are between the first and second year of their lives).
I aimed right on the middle of the shoulder, and as the shot brakes, the boar went down instantly.
The complete "live-weight" was about 70 KG, and if you can imagine, i was interested in the bullet performance. The bullet went right through both shoulder bones, and this time with no fragements pushed through the meat.
Shooting distance 30 meters.
Very good result!!!
The next night i was sitting on a open field sourrounded by wood, and suddenly one male boar came out of the forest.
The only problem was the wind, while suddenly changes the direction and now was blowing my scent directly to the boar.
He was a little bit nervous, and he must get my scent,..so he startes to went away to the woods,giving me no good posiibilty for a heart or "boiler room" hit. only his back.
Then he moved under an angle of 45 degrees to the left.
I took my chance , as he was showing me his shoulder...and after the shot he went away. But the signs he was giving, showing me that the hit, was placed well.
And some moves further, he was strugling.
After waiting some minutes, i was going to look where he went.
On the place where i saw him strugling, he was laying. Broke up in his foot print.
Shooting distance 100meters, escape-distance 10 meters.
And the signs on the place where he was standing as recieved the bullet, where plenty of.
Plenty of blood,and a good trail.
On thing i did not recognized in the shot was , taht he went down by full length to the ground. You could see the lines of his body in the snow.
The shot went under an agle of 45 degrees,starting on the left side behind the shoulder to the right side of the shoulder. Where the bullet destroyed the shoulder bone.
I think because he was knowing that something wasn�t okay, he was pumped up with adrenaline and the brain was programmed on an escape.
My hunting companion, who shoots a 9,3*62 was real astonished about the work of the .375H&H
Knowing,that my three stories, can�t give a real inside view of the bullet performanced, i have to say that i�m -up to know- confident of the wise the KS-Bullet works.
But i�ll keep an eye on the a-frame and the Barnes X for sure.
What is the price of the A-Frame ?
Not knowing exactly the price overhere, i think the price per bullet is about DM 3,60, about US$ 1,80 per bullet.
Do u use Magnum Primers? Any recommends for the brass?
Overhere i can purchase RWS,Norma or Win.
Of what i heared, NORMA makes good brasses.

P.S.
If i manage to get a scanner, i could sent you some photos.
Is it possible to post photos here in the forum?

Nice new years eve,
cheers
Konstantin

 
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If "excessive meat damage" does come from bullet fragments at what terminal velocity does a solid copper bullet loose metal?

I know the 165 flat base X bullets I have loose the entire nose into fragments when hitting water at 3100 fps.

Most all other jacketed bullets loose metal of course but the study at http://ulfhere.freeyellow.com/ballistic/wounding.html says that some premium bullets only loose 5%

Anyway you have to destroy something to kill. Use enough gun.

I like that .375 H&H.

[This message has been edited by Don Martin29 (edited 12-31-2001).]

 
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hey ola,
the Hirtenberger ABC is available in .375 H&H MAGNUM.
Do you have any experiences with it ?
I�ve heared that they had some problems with the "recipie" of their bullets.
Too soft copper jacket, that will cause much bore-fouling?
Maybe it�s true,or just a fake.....??

greatings to NORWAY,
konstantin

[This message has been edited by konst (edited 12-31-2001).]

 
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I've shot five whitetail deer with the 260 gr partition at a muzzle velocity of 2740 fps and I've had virtually no meat loss out of any of them. Shots ranged from 40 yds to 325 yds.
 
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