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.375-06 vs .375 H&H ?????
27 July 2006, 14:20
Bullet_.375.375-06 vs .375 H&H ?????
My first rifle I had custom built was a .375 H&H. It was a dream I had since I was a little boy. I already had a 30-06 Bruno de lux that my dad gave me when I was 13 years old. I figured with these two rifles I would be able to hunt just about anything.
I did not have much money to put the 375 together so I used a standard Mauser action and had the box extended and all the relevant ajustments made to fit the H&H cartridge.
With the gun laws in SA there are very few people that do "Wild cat" development and were therefore unaware of the .375-06.
I do not know much about the 375-06 but if the following are true what I gathered from the little research I have done on it, my dreams are shattered!
- .375-06 can be built on a standard mauser action with very little gunsmithing
- It shoots a 300gr bullet at 2300 fps only 200 slower than the 375 H&H
- Standard 30-06 cases can be used to form the cases of which I have more than a thousand (ssshhh I think it is illegal to have that much...or is it? who knows.....)
Can some one please confirm if the above is true?
Does any one have first hand experience with the 375-06 cartridge?
27 July 2006, 15:10
Bent FossdalHowdy,
Your best coise is to go for the .375 Whelen Improoved, or the .375 Hawk-Scowill.
The first being the .375-06 with blown out body and 40 degree shoulder, the latter the 9,3x62 opened up to .375. Both will give you close to 2300 with a 300 grs bullet. I do not think a standard .375-06 will reach more than 2150 with a 300 grs bullet, having aboth 5% less volume.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
You can get close to 2400 fps with 300 gr. bullets in a 9.3x62, a "standardized" cartridge. Why fool with a 375-06?
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27 July 2006, 15:55
LorenzoWait for the 375 Ruger...
L
27 July 2006, 16:00
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo:
Wait for the 375 Ruger...
L
Which is?
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
27 July 2006, 16:06
jeffeosso376 steyr, without a doubt.
jeffe
27 July 2006, 19:19
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
376 steyr, without a doubt.
jeffe
Yea? You know somthing you did not know two days ago, Jeffe, hm???????
They can't just take a cartridge and rename it, can they?
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
27 July 2006, 19:51
snowcatBent, the Syeyr has been around for years, is a great cart. but would require some bolt face work as will the theoretical 375 Ruger. Since you're talking about coming up with a wildcat reamer I assume opening a bolt face is not a deal killer. The 376 Steyr is standardized with fact. ammo available, close to the H&H, brass is cheap as are dies.
I have a 375 Whelen Improved and love it (260's to 2550+). It functions no prob. from a bone stock mil surplus M98. Ballistically, its got nothing over the 9.3x62, if where you live that is readily available, do with it. If you want to use the 06 brass you have and have a surplus M98 and 375 barrel, the 375 Whelen AI is great. Dies will run $100, reamers are everywhere.
Jay Kolbe
27 July 2006, 19:53
jeffeossoBent,
I meant for the gent's action, use a 376 steyr

i don't know what a 375 ruger is!
jeffe
27 July 2006, 19:58
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Bent,
I meant for the gent's action, use a 376 steyr

i don't know what a 375 ruger is!
jeffe
Damn, I guess I was carried away a bit......

Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
27 July 2006, 19:58
vapodogHere's some load data for the .375-06
300 Nosler IMR IMR-4320 54.0 2,280
Remarks: OAL: 3.15 inches; maximum
300 Nosler IMR IMR-4320 52.0 2,250
Remarks: OAL: 3.15 inches
300 Hornady boat-tail IMR IMR-4320 54.0 2,360
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; maximum
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-4350 60.0 2,160
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; mild
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-4320 60.0 2,470
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; maximum
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-4320 58.0 2,460
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; moderate
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-4320 56.0 2,410
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-4064 58.0 2,380
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; near maximum
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-3031 57.0 2,460
Remarks: OAL: 3.34 inches; maximum
270 Hornady Spire Point IMR IMR-3031 56.0 2,460
But wait a second.....it's late breaking news but Hornady has announced the .375 Ruger....a beltless .375 Taylor that will duplicate (for all practical purposes) the .375 H*H in a standard length action. This too can be fit into a standard mauser action.
Other than that Will's comments ring very true. The .375-06 is not a good choice beside the 9.3 X 62.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo:
Wait for the 375 Ruger...
L
Another stupid idea whose time will not come.
square shooter
27 July 2006, 22:11
LorenzoMmmm, I don't think is a stupid idea..why?

We need another 375 ? no we don't but with all those Taylors around, with the 9,3 not being legal for DG in many countries, with a lot of people like me that prefer a lighter rifle in a mauser 98 standard action and just because I don't like the name 376 Steyr, this idea has a lot of sense.
L
quote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo:
Mmmm, I don't think is a stupid idea..why?

We need another 375 ? no we don't but with all those Taylors around, with the 9,3 not being legal for DG in many countries, with a lot of people like me that prefer a lighter rifle in a mauser 98 standard action and just because I don't like the name 376 Steyr, this idea has a lot of sense.
L
What we really need is a +40 caliber factory DG cartridge that fits in my left handed Ruger magnum action. (Blatant self-interest)
Frank
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28 July 2006, 01:36
analog_peninsulaBe the first on your block to neck up the .375 Ruger to .416.
Or .423

analog_peninsula
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quote:
Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
Be the first on your block to neck up the .375 Ruger to .416.
Or .423

analog_peninsula

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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________
"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________
If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.
28 July 2006, 03:26
mr rigbyJR Sundra sit there crying over that someone from A.R wildcatted the .375 Ruger first before him.
17.Ruger
20 Ruger
22 Ruger
6mm Ruger
6,5 Ruger
270 Ruger
7mm Ruger
30 Ruger
8mm Ruger
338 Ruger
400 ruger
416 Ruger
423 Ruger
458 Ruger.
oopps ,already named them!!