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416 Rem vs. 416 Ruger

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01 February 2012, 07:50
TwicePipes
416 Rem vs. 416 Ruger
Both push 400 grains at 2400 fps.

How else do they compare? Does one feed better than the other? Are chamber pressures materially different.

Thanks for the advice.
01 February 2012, 09:28
Sid-
The Ruger was designed to fit in a standard action so less expensive rifles could be utilized. Both cartridges are loaded to high magnum pressures so they are equal there. Case capacity is also comparable. The Ruger does eliminate the belt wich is a huge plus in my book. That will definately help reduce any feeding issues altho my M70 in 416 Rem feeds just fine. Since the Ruger is a new cartridge it is only available in the Alaskan model for a standard factory gun. You could get it in a semi custom or full custom tho. I see one of CZ's 550 is available in 416 Ruger for 3 grand.

If Winchester had offered the 416 Ruger or 416 Rem in a M70 I would have chosen the Ruger without hesitation. I think it is a better design. There is nothing wrong with the Remington and nothing on this planet you cannot hunt with it but I like beltless designs. If you want to see a really good design check out Jeffeoso's 416 AR. It uses a shortened Jefferey/Ultra Mag case but still gives more punch than either the Remington or Ruger. If you still want more juice look at a 416 Ultra Cat, 416 Rigby or Weatherby. I just feel that Ruger has the best factory offering but unfortunately no other manufacturer's have adopted the round.
01 February 2012, 09:51
460 wby shooter
My NC winchester mod 70 in 416 rem is the smoothest feeding rifle I own, I would go with the 416 rem if I were you. Their are more factory loads for the remington and if found yourself without ammo you may not be able to find 416 ruger.
01 February 2012, 10:08
dogcat
Twice,
I looked hard at both before settling on the M70 in .416 Rem. The reason-

1. Cost of rifles is the same, with edge to M70 in quality coming from the new FN facility in South Carolina.

2. .416 Rem ammo is easier to find and buy - more selection for the non-reloader.

Performance is equal between calipers.

I chose the M70.
01 February 2012, 10:18
LionHunter
'416Rem in a M70 = outstanding performance!


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01 February 2012, 10:28
Blank
Love my 416 Ruger; worked on buff and elephant just fine. Balances great for one hand carry, and I actually like the Hogue stock. With 350 gr. Barnes TSX it is a smokin' elk load here in Idaho
01 February 2012, 16:12
jeffeosso
No difference worrying mentioning if either is built on designed for platform

The ruger is virtually my 416ar and feeding isn't hard.


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
01 February 2012, 19:03
eezridr
I would find a rifle that fits you. Comparing off the shelf guns that cost about the same (Ruger and Winchester) The Winchester has a 1/4" longer LOP.
Where you use it may play into your decision.
As far as pressures and belts?? I think the pressure question has been answered.
The darling of all African cartridges (375 H&H) has a belt and is a high pressure cartridge. Everyone brags on it and has been around a long time.
Personally, I have never experienced a belt on a cartridge impede loading.
19 February 2012, 18:59
416Tanzan
quote:
Originally posted by Blank:
Love my 416 Ruger; worked on buff and elephant just fine. Balances great for one hand carry, and I actually like the Hogue stock. With 350 gr. Barnes TSX it is a smokin' elk load here in Idaho


sounds like the Alaskan with a 20" barrel.

Do you get 2600 fps with the 350 grain?


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