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Originally posted by prof242:
Could just put a .458 Win Mag bbl on the .395. No feeding problems or need to lengthen the magazine.

HEAR HEAR! HERE HERE! HEAR HERE!

The ".458 Ruger Max" truly deserves the tile of "Max."
It is the biggest thing that can be done with the .375 Ruger case.
It will surpass the .458 WinMag and be very close to the .458 Lott in a standard action.
What a sweet pair of kittens: MEOW!
.395 Ruger Max
.458 Ruger Max


PS: Max, repeat this three times: "Get thee behind me satan."

.666 x .656 x 1:16 x 6 lands x 1.5 x 1.25 x 26 x 5" cyl in stainless = $450 each shipped x 5 piece minimum. 3 month lead.

Who is making them?
I want one if they are not being made by carmelo at world wanker.

WTF? Who is Carmelo and is he in low finance or what???

Pac-Nor

Pac-Nor good. I might need two of them.
One for a McMillan, and one for a Sharps, but I am willing to wait for another action alternative for a sporting DGR, whatever that may be, just so Carmelo of World Wankers is not involved. Will do a search for picture of Carmelo in pink, wetting his pants. Did anyone save that one?

OH DINGLEFARB! Don't even have my 400/.395 N.E. finished yet and am being "pursuaded" to build a .458 Max. By the way, when I said, "Get thee behind me Satan" three times, he said, "Naw, the .458 Max will stop anything." See what you're getting me into?

Max,
My .395 Ruger Max was "on the lathe" last time I pestered the smith with a phone call. I am giving him a month until I pester him again, hoping he'll call me first.

The .458 Ruger Max simply must be done. Doing good ain't got no end. As soon as I put a silver bullet through the heart of darkness with the .666 Teufel, I will do a .458 Ruger Max. Maybe you will beat me to it?

After the .458 Ruger Max? The only thing left is a rimmed 700/.666 NE 3.5" ... for a scaled up Sharps 1874 or Farquharson.

What is the biggest rim size they ever fit in a Farkie?

This way lies madness ...

RIP that would be like the 70-150 WIN
which you can get in a 1887 Replica Levergun.
like the ones we all got in 12ga. The case
is a 12ga necked down. Same result as 12ga rims
we put on BMG brass when we made 12GA FH. Ed

Ed,
I have seen those 12-guage 1887 replicas at my local gun emporium for about $400. Used by Cowboy Action Shooters ... what pressures can you use in those?

Necking down the 12GFH to .666 is an excellent idea. I was stuck on the 16-Guage idea, but that bore size is .662" and it would be a little cramped for .666".

So necking the 12GFH down to .666 would be the way to go. May I suggest this be called 12/16-Guage From Hell? Or maybe the 16-Guage From Purgatory? Not a "Sweet Sixteen."

Chamber that in a side-by-side and call it a 16-Guage "Purgie."

Any research on this will start with the 12GFH thread. Where do I start to cut to the chase?

That 2.18" long 70-150 Winchester brass is quite humorous. Neck that down to .666 and call it the .666 Whisper?

70-150 Winchester Historical Notes (from COTW)
The 70-150 cartridge appeared on the 1888 Winchester cartridge boards. Some say it was an advertising novelty for display only. According to Paul Foster (Gun Digest, 1952, 6th Edition p. 173), the only gun chambered for it was a specially-made Model 1887 shotgun with rifled barrel. It was never produced on a commercial basis.

General Comments
The 70-150 is based on the brass 12-guage shotshell shortened and necked slightly. It is mentioned only to complete the record. No guns were produced for it; therefore, no loading or ballistics data is available. However, the case would hold about 150 grains of powder and bullets of this caliber would weigh anywhere from 600 to 900 grains. The muzzle velocity this combination could develop would be approximately 1,300 to 1,500 fps, depending on bullet weight ...
Theoretical ballistics:
600 grain lead/1500fps/KE 3000
900 grain lead/1300fps/KE 3380
(bullet diameter: 0.705")

Does anyone manufacture a conventional looking turn-bolt with mag well that will accomadate a cartridge with OAL around 4 1/2" or even slightly longer? Just have to ask, out of interest. Rodney.

McMillan makes a nice one with detachable box mag. It's pretty big to use for a hunting rifle though. You'd be looking at a 20+ pound rifle.

Wow, I'm actually looking at the potential of such a chambering. As if I don't have enough on my plate right now. The simplicity of forming from BMG brass adds to an infinate supply of cases that will allmost or to say the least not wear out before the user or their shoulder. Think maybe MRC's PH action could handle the rim diameter just wondering about OAL ? Rodney.

Isn't that where the purpose of gunbearer came from? R.

I think he new big daddy MRC has a bolt diameter of .800" and the BMG has a rim/case of .804". Doubt the MRC or it's box would like a 4.5" + COAL. The other thing to consider is that the shank thread is too small for an .804" case - not enough material left for that kind of hoop stress.

Isn't this why the title of gunbearer was developed. R.

Yes true but you may have to lug the thing yourself too. The challenge here is building something that is light enough to carry and has a enough mass to cool out the recoil moment.

A brake and probably and damper are needed. The weight starts to add up quickly...

Oops sorry about the double take. I'll take a look into the McMillen just for grins of course. Was checking out a friend of mines 50 BMG in a bulpup configuration, was heavy but more manageable to carry than say an M82 version, just for considerations of size weight etc. Rodney.

What is or how much recoil can a human body take? I've been putting in some serious sessions lately with Mr Lott and Gibbs and I'm feeling it for some days after. Just wondering as I progress into larger bore sizes. R.

You shouldn't be feeling it afterwards...get one of those Devices Tom McCoy makes and be wary of how your head and neck feel more than your shoulder. How much do you and your rifle weigh?

Not meaning to "hi-jack" a thread here but it kind of goes with it. I'm not of a large body size at 5' 9" and 160 or so pounds I often shoot rifles that have recoil equalling or more than half my body weight. Just wondering about recoil as the only complaint to mention is trigger guards hitting my middle finger. Allthough lately I've been feeling as a prefessional television wrestler has body slammed me. Rodney.

Take a break and have someone who knows watch what you're doing to try and refine your technique. I am not too much bigger than you and I can handle the .460 all day long as long as I'm careful with my neck absorbing recoil and transferring into my head.

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Originally posted by Macifej:
McMillan makes a nice one with detachable box mag. It's pretty big to use for a hunting rifle though. You'd be looking at a 20+ pound rifle.

Desert Rhino shell-holder-actioned single shots in 50BMG weighed about 16 pounds with a 16" barrel.

Making a 20-pound McMillan repeater in 666TH would be a worthy goal.
That would be easier to carry than a 4-bore double weighing 24 pounds.

You might not even need the leather shoulder harness with leather butt-keeper for hanging the weight on your torso as used by the 4-bore double afficionados.

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Originally posted by hubel458:
RIP that would be like the 70-150 WIN
which you can get in a 1887 Replica Levergun.
like the ones we all got in 12ga. The case
is a 12ga necked down. Same result as 12ga rims
we put on BMG brass when we made 12GA FH. Ed

The more I think about this, the more I like that idea, 12-Guage From Hell necked down to .666 would be truly devilish.

.666/12GFH

The 1887 lever action with a .666 rifled barrel would be a fun start at lo-power slinging of "silver bullets."

Making a rimless cartridge for hi-power from 50BMG, and a rimmed one for lo-power from whatever brass 12-guage: Helluva good idea.

Ay yi yi. Marketing does not seem to be a forte here.

Why don't you at least nickname the 666 caliber the "Hellfire". All that devil stuff might drive some folks off. Unless of course you're target marketing to the pentagram crowd.

Heck, why not add another .045 to the beast to bring it to .711. Then you would have a choice of monikers like the "Slurpee" or the "Big Beef Stick". "Thank Heaven for 711".

411 might be better since there's a lot of information but not a lot of progress.

Jim - You are hereby appointed director of sales and marketing...