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I have a ton of 410 grain Woodleigh .416 bullets that I.pulled from 416 weatherby ammo because it was a bargain .I shot a few of them and I swear they kick.twice as much as any other 416 bullet I.have shot .I know they are awesome bullets .I.tried them with reloader 15 powder .They have a longer bearing surface than any other 416 bullet I.have seen .I know they will go end to end of a ten foot coastal Brown bear and worked when Barnes x bullets failed.I want to use these for moose and bears .They feed vert well and have that grove cut in.them .Hopefully I.figure these bullets out I have about 5000of them .I.thought about trading them.for nosler partitions or swift bullets for longer range .They expand to .93 caliber so expansion is awesome just wondered if anyone else used them .
 
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I have on a number of ocassions and it performed to perfection in each case..Probably better than in a faster velocity case such as the WBY..They compare favorably to the 400 gr. Woodleigh which I like...but my favorite Woodleigh of all time in .40 caliber is the 450 gr. PP, Rn or solids I tested for Geoff in Tanzania some years ago.


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Filer, Idaho, 83328
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It actually went a little faster than the other 400 grain bullets I used .The problem was in my 7.5 ,pound 416 rem mag it knocked the snot out of you .I didn't shoot in my model 70 Winchester.The stock on the rem 700 was a HS Presicion stock that had a wider butt than the Winchester .I want a stock like that on my model 70 .Those Wooldridge 410 bullets were accurate to 200 yards too .I pushed them close to 2480 fps which is alot of power .They feed as smooth as butter .I should have taken some to Alaska to try in my stainless 416-Remington that had a awesome muzzle break.Hopefully I get back up there this year turned 55 not getting any younger !
 
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I suspect that was more the load than the bullet. 10 grs. of lead doesn't make much difference, or at least I never noticed it in my 416 Rem. however most rounds will get your attention in a 416 of any kind, if you lay off shooting them for the winter, it takes awhile to get back in the big bore groove as to recoil, don't let anyone kid you about that..

The older I get the better I like the muzzle brakes, If I get any complaining I explain to the complan-er how to stick his damn fingers in his ears... shocker


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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I’ve used the Woodley 450gr solids and softs on various game up to cape buff. Very effective and never had a missfeed. (.416 Rigby)
 
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I killed a zebra in Namibia with one. It really killed him.


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We used them on coastal bears in Alaska they went through all ten feet of bears .Barnes bullets failed and bears almost are friends .They mushroomed to .92 caliber I am wondering these were made for 416 weatherby loads way thicker jackets than 400 grain.Woodliegh bullets They blew old telephone poles down we Ser up fast !
 
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In my 416 Rigby, they are all I have ever loaded. They have the prettiest mushroom of nearly any bullet I ever used. Only ONE has ever come out of an animal that looked funny and that was removed from the hip of a water buff right in the joint, it had travelled 4’ of animal to end up there and one side of the mushroom had been sliced off by bone.

Seeing as though both cartridges have the same/similar velocity, I see performance being very similar also.

If recoil is too stout maybe try less powder or switch to a faster powder.

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I loaded them with r15-to 2400 fps .A friend shot A coastal grizzly with them after having lots of failures with Barnes x bullets on big bears .He shot the first bear with them it went all ten feet end till end .The Barnes bullets blew off its petals and acted like a solid .I got good accuracy out of them too .I think the kicked worse because they were out.of my.light Remington guide rifle which has a light barrel .
 
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I agree with DK1`the 450 gr. Woodleigh in the 416 Remington is my all time favorite DG bullet for that caliber..Its worked like a charm for me with solids and softs...Im sure its the exact same in a Rigby unless perhaps you load te Rigby to 2700 to 2900 FPS as some Ive seen do..I load any 416 to 2400 FPS


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

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No reason they wouldn't work.

Because of their length, you might consider dropping the velocity to 2,300 fps. That will keep the pressure in the green zone.


 
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It didn't help too much that the 416 rem mag i was shooting them out of was 7.5 pounds !
It kicked alot more that 400 grain hornady bullets with the same amount of powder in it .
I know they work awesome on ten foot bears in Alaska and went end to end in them .The Barnes 350 and 400 grain bullets blew off their petals and just about got a few friends of mine killed from charging bears .
I had awesome mushrooms in every thing I shot with the 410 grain Woodliegh bullets .I pulled them
Out of a bunch of loaded 416 weatherby loads I got cheap .I will have to try them in my 416 rem mag with the muzzle break next time .I need a good fiberglass stock on.My.model 70 Winchester because I swear it kicks more with the wood stock than the Kevlar stocked model 700 Remington 416 rem mag i have .It something
About the recoil waves go more forcefully through the wood which gives you all the recoil waves and the Kevlar dissipates the waves .I use to shoot my 416 alot more when powder ,and bullets were way cheaper almost 1/3 as much as they are now !
 
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I suspect that was more the load than the bullet. 10 grs. of lead doesn't make much difference, or at least I never noticed it in my 416 Rem. however most rounds will get your attention in a 416 of any kind, if you lay off shooting them for the winter, it takes awhile to get back in the big bore groove as to recoil, don't let anyone kid you about that..

The older I get the better I like the muzzle brakes, If I get any complaining I explain to the complan-er how to stick his damn fingers in his ears... shocker



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My.limit of recoil is the 410 grain 416 at 2400 .My right shoulder
With the torn rotator cuff tells me so.I can't go above that recoil .It's plenty for
Anything that walks the earth these days ! IT shoots good groups at 200-yards too alot of fun doing that like the old buffalo hunters .It dropped about a foot at 200-yards energy is good still too .The ones friends pulled out of coastal bears were around .92 caliber mushrooms and looked perfict .It's a good big bear bullet for the tent gun too where long range is about three feet ! JUST make sure you shoot out the door of the tent or your wilderness house will go poof!
 
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You don't need more velocity than 2300 to 2400 FPS in the 416s, its a proven capable round..

I shot a huge bull elk at 100 yards, hit as he wheeled around to escape, in the last rib, that 450 gr. PP exited behind its ear, that's the most penetration I ever got from any rifle as best I recall..ON that same hunt it broke the shoulder on a Bison bull and exited its flank. About the same I experienced on Cape Buffalo, Eland and Hippo. Its just a great bullet, The PP out penetrates the RN by a bunch, the RN expands to a larger circumference and packs a bunch of knockdown for lack of a better word.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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