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I want to know if anyone knows how well the Barnes 235 gr. XLC perform down range. How well do they buffer the wind? If you have any experience with them I would like to know how what your results were. I went on a Caribou hunt last year and did will with my 300 win mag. I would like to take one with my 375H&H. My shot last year was 300 yards. Thanks in advance. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | ||
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Redhawk, I have used them some. They worked quite nicely on whitetails. One in particular. It was the only time I have used the Texas Heart Shot. I was hunting on a hunting lease that has an outside the ears rule. The buck came out and I could tell he was a nice one but could not see if he was outside the ears as he gave me a two second chance at a broadside shoulder shot. He immediately entered a road bed going straight away from me. He was well outside the ears and now the THS was my only shot. Best deer I have seen to date. As he made it to the other side of the road I kept him in the crosshairs hoping to get a raking shot if not a good quartering shot. This is one time that I was glad I was carrying a three and six bits and not a lighter gun. I watched his body english and determined he was making preparations to make the leap into the thick woods at the road's edge. With the crosshairs just to the right of his tail I let him have it at about 140-150 yards. He hit the dirt, got up and scrambled out of sight. I found him about ten yards off the road. I hit him right in the ball joint. It ruptured the femoral artery, shattered the pelvis which made sure he didn't move far. The bullet ranged forward into the vitals but aparently did not exit. I looked for the bullet but apparently it was lost in the internals that were lost in field dressing him. I will have to say that the bullet perfomed quite well and I have no complaints with it. In looking at the trajectory tables, the 235 can be launched much faster at least in theory. At the book max I am only at 2850 instead of 2950 that the tables say. My 375 barrel is 21 inches which may have something to do with the decrease in velocity. In comparing a 235 at 2850 and a 270 gr Swift A-Frame at 2750, which I can reach in my rifle, the trajectories are not much different. If you were trying to hit a large critter and bring a rapid end to the festivities, would you rather hit it with 235 or 270 grains of bullet. Using this logic I have gone back to the 270 gr load for most everything in my 375. Deer through eland, you are covered. If I could get to 2950 or 3000 I might feel different. With the 235 gr at 2850 I might be just as well off with a 300 mag.I do not have access to a 300 -400 yard range to check trajectories myself which is what you were originally asking for. Good hunting. Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D" | |||
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D Hunter, what I want to be able to do is take a 300 yards shot if needed. 200 yards is not a problem. I have shot my 375 H&H at 200 yards and accuracy was great, I just want to be able to make it longer if needed. I can always take my 300 Win Mag back to Alaska but I just wanted to try the 375 H&H on Caribou. That was the reason for the 235 gr. bullet choice. I don't want a lot of drop from 200 to 300 yards. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Redhawk I understand. But you will have a bit of drop to deal with I will tell you that if you memorize your trajectory with whatever load you choose to take and range it if it is over 250, you will be in the money. My longest shot with the 375 was a 300 yard shot at a coyote using 300 gr Swift A-Frames. Factory Remington Safari loads. I figured about 9 inches drop at 300 but didn't have time to range him. Popped him in the neck and it was definitely enough gun for coyotes. Still the 235 gr is a nice experiment. Please PM me on your discoveries on load development. I can't remember my exact loads at this point but if you like I can get into my archives and find them. Good hunting. Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D" | |||
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Redhawk1 I think you will be quite pleased with the 235 gr. X bullet. If you can get 2900 fps out of it and put it 3" high @ 100 yards this will put you dead on at about 250 and about 4" low at 300. That is plenty good for trajectory. I whacked this deer in season 2003 with the uncoated 235 gr. X bullet. Distance was only about 100 yards. Meat damage was not as much as my .300 mag with the Nosler Balistic Tip Here is the exit hole. Let us know what you do and how you like it. ****************************** There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular -- but one must ask, "Is it right?" Martin Luther King, Jr. | |||
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Thanks for the reply's. I will order some 235 gr. XLC's. I will do a lot of shooting with them and report back how they shoot. I have a 200 yards range to shoot at. I am dyeing to get out and shoot, but we got snow up to our butts here. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Considering the fact that the 270 gr. 375 has the same trajectory as a 180 gr. 30-06, I see no problem with using a 270 gr. bullet at 300 yards and it certainly arrives with more authority..I have shot a lot of game with the 375 and the 300 gr. bullet at 300 yards and even a bit further.... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Nickudu, I take it you like the 270 gr. I will try them also. Thanks If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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Ray I’m glad to hear that the 270gr will give me good reach. I drew a cull hunt for Mouflon Sheep in Hawaii, and I plan on using my new CZ .375. I have been “looking†for a bullet that will be cheep, and yet carry out to 250 to 300 yards. (Range per the National parks guide). Would it be better to just take some factory Hornady 270gr Spear points or Remington 270 Core-lock shells or try to work up some 260gr Accubond loads? I leave for the hunt on March 3. To a point you can never have too much horsepower! Hauptjager | |||
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Haupt, if your time is your own and you don't have to work much I would start rolling your own and see if you get a winner. If your schedule looks like mine, get some factory stuff and see if you can get to the range to sight it in. March 3 is coming fast. Good luck and good hunting. Let us know what works for you. Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D" | |||
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Nothing like rolling your own and taking game. If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Member of the Delaware Destroyers Member Reeders Misfits NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER NAHC Life Member DSA Life Member | |||
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.375 H&H - Federal ammo 260 grain Accubond. 384 Yards - Red Stag - more or less - 20 Roland | |||
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I like to roll my own but the 260 gr. Nosler by Federal has always given me great performance on the lighter stuff up to Kudu in size. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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quote: Ray, Knowing that shot placement is the most important factor of a successful hunt. What do you think Ray, about Federals statement; that the 260 Grain Accubond is designed for maximum effectiveness on large game with tough hide, heavy bone and muscle tissue such as Cape buffalo and elephant. If all possible your expertise would be welcome. Thank you, Roland | |||
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I worked up a load with the 235gr XLC for my 376 Steyr using, I believe, 72gr of VV550 that gave me 3015-3025fps with 1 MOA accuracy. Then I saw the new Triple Shocks in 270gr and worked up a load with 67gr of VV550 that gives 2720-2750fps with 1/2+ MOA accuracy. I figured that better accuracy with the bigger bullet and a trajectory that approximates my 30-06 has to be a winner. Haven't shot anything yet though. | |||
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I would not be comfortable with the 260 Accubond on Buffalo, not at all...I answered this question in detail over at the other thread wherein the same questioning came up. I wouldn't even use a 260 gr. Nosler partition on Buffalo, only the 300 gr. partition is suitable IMO and just barely....I much prefer the Northfork cup points for buffalo over any other bullet, soft or solid, with a good flat nose solid comming in second place. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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