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03 August 2003, 19:12
Lar45
470 bullets
Hi all, I made my copper tubeing/ cast bullets and loaded one for my proof load. While seating the bullet, the core got pushed out of the jacket tubeing. I guess I didn't flux or pre-heat enough. I went back to the lathe and turned out a 550gn bullet from Aluminum Bronze. It looks pretty good, I think I'll use it for my proof load. I hope to get to the range tomorrow and shoot this thing for the first time. I'll have to build a quick jig to bolt it to the bench for remote fireing on the proof load.
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I'm thinking that this bullet shouldn't deform on anything.
03 August 2003, 19:22
Lar45
Sorry, my wimpy digital camera doesn't give the clearest pictures on closeups.
Loaded round with Barnes 500 XLC, loaded tubing/cast, you can see the lead comeing out of the top, I'll pull this one, 550gn turned, 500 Barnes XLC.
04 August 2003, 08:02
<Pfeifer>
Lar45,
I was on the www.MidwayUSA.com site the other day was noticed that they had an RCBS .470 NE bullet mold on markdown - something like $75. Sounds like you already have something to fill the bill though, but just thought I'd pass it along anyway...just in case. [Smile]

Good luck with your .470!
Jeff P
04 August 2003, 15:13
Lar45
Thanks, I have a 400gn mold, but need to get a 500gn mold also. I was thinking about going with www.mountainmolds.com and haveing him cut two different styles on the same block, maybe one with a 70% nose and the other with a 90% nose.
05 August 2003, 05:46
500grains
That's a mean looking flat nose.

I personally like the idea of more driving bands that are thinner to reduce the pressure of engraving the rifling on the bullet even further.
05 August 2003, 05:47
500grains
About the 90% nose, that is basically a full wadcutter design. I like the idea too, but I have wondered if it would be stable as it passes through flesh and bone.
05 August 2003, 06:11
Lar45
I have a .452 350gn 90% nose mold from www.mountainmolds.com. It shoot really accurate on paper out of my 454 Taurus. I only got the mold and tested this winter, so I haven't shot anything live with it. I could probably do a wet newsprint test sometime though. The 470 will have much higher velocity though. What do you think would be a resonable band width and groove depth? I just guessed at the bullet, it has over 50% of the driveing surface removed. The smaller steps would probably help though.
05 August 2003, 10:33
Atkinson
500 grs. I will bet it will be stable going through game, but I will also bet dollars to donuts it won't feed for beans in most rifles....
05 August 2003, 12:19
Robgunbuilder
It will feed great in a Single shot or double rifle(Ha Ha)! from a bolt action it won't feed at all! Tried that!-Rob
05 August 2003, 14:14
Lar45
It fell right in the double.
10 August 2003, 19:20
<Pfeifer>
Was just looking at that RCBS mold again and it is a .474" 500 grn mold.
RCBS 470 NE Mold

Hmmm, Wonder how this one might work in the 470 Mbogo...Anyone tried it?

LAR45 - Do let us know how your Mountain Mold comes out for you.
Jeff P
11 August 2003, 20:12
Lar45
I picked up my Mountain mold yesterday. It's made on the large Aluminum block with the tool steel sprue plate. I got one cavity with a 70% nose and the other with a 90% nose, both gaschecked and 500gns. The test bullets that he cast looked perfect. Life's been busy so I haven't had a chance to cast or load any yet, but I'm hopeing to do so this comeing week. Once I get some cast, I'll send samples to anyone that's interested.