When I first came to this forum, I was poking around and asking questions about the .470 capstick, then my interest turned to the .450 Rigby. Well, now that I have the option of going either way, I'm torn between the two. At first the .470 caught my eye because I have never really dealt with a wildcat,( if you want to call it that ), and also you guys told me alot of good things about this round. Then came along Ol' Sarge and turned me on to the .450 Rigby. For awhile this was the way I thought I wanted to go, but now the .470 capstick is starting to look good again because I have tons of .375 brass around. Please help me out of my misery.!!!!!! Any pros or cons you can give me are greatly appreciated. I am set on one of these two calibers, so please don't get me started on thinking about something else, because if I did I think I would end up with the .458 Lott, and I think that as good as the cartridge is I want something a little bit more off beat.

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You won't shoot any Class III enough to wear out a lot of brass unless you become a PH doing Problem Animal Control. One batch of 50 Rigby brass and you will be set for life. The real advantage of a .458 over a .475 is bullet availability. EVERYONE makes .458's but .470's only come from Barnes and Woodleigh, to all intents and purposes. Additionally, the Rigby will operate at lower pressure to produce the same ballistics. This means longer case life and slower (though not lesser) recoil. The .470 will give you greater magazine capacity and greater frontal area. Which seems to be more important.

What happened to the 600 nitro express that you wanted?

The bullet availability in .458" really has to sway in the favor of the 450. Or, if you want to use your 375 brass, the 458 lott is a fine round. Oh, you didn't want to hear that.

If you want offbeat, then the 470's are the way to go. If you want more then a 458, then to me, the 50's are the answer, as they have a better selection of bullets then the 475's, and alas, what the 475's gain on the 45's, the 500's gain on the 475's.

Any way you cut it, you are looking at an emotional decision when you ponder these things, as practicality and finances would lead you in a different direction.

I know, I had a 458 lott, and sold it to finance a 500 Jeffrey, and somewhere along the line came accross some Ruger #1 458 take off barrels, and am having another Class II 458 made, but this one on a 2.5" 404 case, using the body dimensions of the 416 howell. Any cost savings of having the reamer on hand are lost with custom dies, but as I said, you can't be practicle when making these decisions!

I'm still waiting on both barreled actions as well.

Jagtip, as much as I would like to be the proud owner of a .600 Nitro of any kind I was basically just blowing smoke out my you know what! I looked a little and all roads ended in big huge $$$$$$$$$$ signs. This reminds me to buy my lottery ticket this week
If I win I'll buy us both .600's. Hows that?

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JR...It's a deal!!!!

JR,
I am the happy owner of a .470 Capstick, so I lean in favor of the .470.

The .458s do have an edge in bullet choice and availability, but cheap "plunking" bullets are available from Speer: their 400gr. Gold Dot designed for the .480 Ruger and .475 Linebaugh shoot large ragged groups for me at 50yds.

Go with whatever catches your fancy; the .470 is a real hammer on buffalo, as is the .458 Lott (and probably the .450 Rigby).

George

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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!

I have been very happy with the 470 capstick. The brass does not wear out. Hawk bullets are cheap for practice, just like .458's. You can also get TCCI solids in .474, or shoot Speer or Hornady .474 400 grains. I also have a 458 lott, and I am happy with it too.

I suggest that you get one of each and compare.

[This message has been edited by 500grains (edited 11-28-2001).]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JR:
Hi JR,
Be a little off beat. A.475/500 grain bullet at 2350 or 2400 fps is a pretty awsome thing. There are lots of .475 bullets available and if you want to shoot lots cast some lead bullets. You've got the brass and you will find it very reasonable to shoot cost wise. There is another 470 option but it's a little further off beat. 470 Mbogo