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I know it's clip fed, and that the clip and trigger guard are "zytel" (i.e. plastic), and that its push feed and that it would be pretty hard to rebarrel if ever needed....but.. Any experience with these? Ive had great luck in smaller calibers, all half MOA guns. Thanks! | ||
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Kynoch, the Steyr is a seriously under-appreciated brand. I've has 7 or 8 over the years, and you're right...the ones I've had have been great shooters as well with the right ammunition. I once bought a 308 Pro Hunter for $550 on sale. Tried a few loads, all in the 1/2" to 3/4" range. Then I tried Hornady's Light Mag with a 150gr SST, and the rifle shot a .197" group. Duplicated it a number of times in the .2" range. Much more accurate than a $550 rifle had a right to be! Also had a 376 scout for a bit. Also shot well under an inch, with me clenching my teeth and closing my eyes....that thing was an a**-kicker! | |||
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My buddy who I hunted with on our last safari was using a Steyr .458 Win. He had a visa problem so he left from Mexico and that left me to zero and pick a good load for his rifles. I ran about 50 rounds of various stuff through it and it really liked Norma 500 A Frames and the new factory Hornady solid. He hunted it extensively with a spare magazine in case a quick reload was necessary. The best shot he made with it was a Texas heart shot on a running wildebeest with an A Frame at over two hundred yards, so there are no flies on the accuracy. He got two buff and a lion, and a zebra for the hell of it. The action is slick as glass and the trigger on this rifle is a crisp three pounds from the factory. It's about fifteen years old, so I don't know what the current models are like. I personally don't like them for DG hunting because you can't top up the magazine through the ejection port. The overall quality on this rifle is quite good. I took it to the range a couple of weeks ago and shot it just for fun. | |||
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I have an older Steyr Safari in 375H&H, also a very accurate shooter. I do like the rotary magazine because it fits flush, and have a spare. Also has set trigger. Downfall? It's a big heavy rifle, good and bad I guess, but a nice rifle, Waidmannsheil, Dom. -------- There are those who only reload so they can shoot, and then there are those who only shoot so they can reload. I belong to the first group. Dom --------- | |||
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Biebs is right all Steyr Barrels are cold hammer forged, over rifleing engraved on a tool steel mandrel. They are as accurate barrels as you can get on a production hunting rifle. They are shooters, and well made rifles, however I'm a collector of Mannlicher-Shoenauer rifles, and IMO when they went to the Steyr Mannlicher rifle and quit makeing the Manlicher-Shoenauer they made a big enough mistake the it stopped me buying anything from them that would be used for dangerous game! However if you can live with a pushfeed rifle for dangerous game then the Steyr Mannlicher is about the most reliable PF rifle you can buy! As PFs go the Steyr Mannlicher rifles are better, IMO, than the Sauer, and miles above the Weatherbys!  ...............The above opinions are only my own, and worth exactly what the reader paid for them!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I have about 30 years experience with Steyr rifles. Mostly in 308. I used one an SSG P2, for a work gun for several years, and hunted quite a bit with a standard SSG, and a full length stock 308. I also had a 7mm mag and hunted with it as well. Accuracy wise they are second to none. Their weak link is the Cyolac trigger guard and magazine. I had the trigger guard on my SSG 2 break durring a Sniper match once. I also had one magazine break one of the retaining latches. That rifle had several thousand rounds through it before the trigger guard broke. Many times the rifle would put 3 rounds in one ragged hole at 300 yards. The barrel was still fairly accurate at seven thousand rounds, but started to develop fliers about then. Also after cleaning it was wild until 5 or 6 rounds were fired. I shot it a little over ten thousand rounds, then had to retire it. If I was going to hunt DG with a Steyr I would carry an extra trigger guard and at least 4 magazines. I would carry at least 4 magazines with ANY rifle that had a detachable mag. I never had a Steyr fail to feed, extract or eject. They made some of their big bores with an extra magazine carried on the right side of the stock. I always wish I had one of those in 458.  Since they are a rear locking action the cases will stretch a little more on firing with top end loads, but I never had any trouble with reloads even in the 7 Mag. That 7Mag was one of the most accurate rifles I have ever shot. It would shoot near halfinch with bullets from 120gr to 170gr Speers, including Nosler Partitions. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Thanks for the feedback. | |||
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I can just see one of you Steyr fans taking your eyes off an Elephant or Cape Buffalo reducing the distance between you for a wee bit to remove one magazine and inserting another. I enjoyed that more than I care to remember in Vietnam with an M-203. Plastic fittings, PF, detachable magazine, no reload thru the action. Did you get them at Wal-Mart? Sounds like the proto model for the 710 Remington. thanks, but no thanks Rich CRF and reload on the fly | |||
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Rich, the Steyrs are good rifles. You can reload with a spare mag, much faster and without any "bobbles", than you can a Mauser for instance. I have shot Steyrs in "running, gunning, high speed, low drag" Sniper matches and wore out those guys with "regular Bolt Actions". When I pulled out my 10 round SSG Magazines, several SWAT Team Snipers fainted...   You cannot "top off", but with around 4 extra mags, your sustained firepower is much higher for the Steyr vs a Mauser, and "sustained" fire power seems important to you "Bolt Rifle Trash" Guys... I am a Double Rifle Guy for DG... I recommended an extra trigger guard assembly [it contains the magazine retaining box as well] as I am a "belt and suspenders" kind of guy. If you depend on an "item", then "One is None, Two is One, and Three is what You Need. I would not hesitate to hunt DG with a Steyr. [IF I was Bolt Rifle Trash] DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have always wanted a steyr scout...just never got around to it Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I'm stealing this... If you depend on an "item", then "One is None, Two is One, and Three is what You Need. | |||
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I have a Steyr SBS Forester in 9.3x62mm and it is a terrific rifle. I put a Leupold 2.5-8 scope on it in Talley rings and bases and it will shoot sub-MOA groups all day long. Very light and handy, too. Just a great rifle. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I have a pro-hunter that i fitted with a forester stock. rifle is in 6.5x55. it is dead nuts accurate. i would love to have one in a larger caliber. | |||
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You do not have to "steal it", I will gladly share it with you. I live by it. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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