Would anyone know the value of a very good condition Model 70 458 win mag push feed. I am in the process of trading for one and do not know value.

I would just get it for yuks and practice, it would not go to Africa.

BigB

worth? to me, 400-600 bucks ..

I agree with Jeffe--$400-$600 at best. Then I would rather put that money together and get a M70 control feed-at least you would have something worth monkeying around with! They are going on gunbroker for $800 plus. control feed going for around $1200 or so.

Michael

i paid $600 for mine....its been drilled and tapped for a side-mount scope....not pretty cosmetically.... i had it restocked with a winchester synthetic stock i picked up on e#b$$y for $60... the stock has a limbsaver recoil pad on it... original stock had been cut, maybe 3/4"... enough to slam your cheek...got about $900 in it now, with bases, rings, scope...

JAL, from down under has one.Havn't heard from him for a while.

I already have 2 CRF Model 70 rifles, one in 404 jeff and one in 416 rem mag. If I go after dangerous game I use one of those. The 416 has taken ele and the 404 brown bear. I thought the 458 might be fun and cheaper to reload for than the other 2 since you can get some cheaper bullets.

BigB

I saw a 375 up here with nice wood in the push feed. It would have been a real good gun and pretty too. Not what was traditional but the price was right if thats what you were looking for. For you the 458 may be the ticket if you can get it cheap. I say why not. The paper and pigs and deer don't know if the gun is CRF and they seem to work just fine until you go to africa then they implode from what I read Just kidding.

I saw one at an auction about 3 months ago. I was interested if the price was right. It was a super grade and went for $1,050 which was much more than I was willing to pay.

Hate to admit it, But I used to carry one . Never actually had a problem with it until I converted it to a Lott

I liked mine but sold it anyway Didn't know that crummy Win factory soft points were the problem Live and learn

I have had a Model 70 push feed 300 win mag since 1972 that other than 2 factory stocks that cracked it has never failed to perform.

It has shot whitetail, mulies, antelope, black bear, hogs and went to Namibia for plains game.

Once I glass bedded the third stock I have never had any problems and that was back in 1982 if I remember.

I also have seen a few PH's in Africa with push feeds, one a push feed 458 Model 70.

BigB

I was just reading the late Cotton Gordon's book on his career as a PH. You guessed it!! He used a 458 Winchester push feed for backup. I guess he didn't realize it was a no-no.

If these old push feed Winchesters were properly cleaned and lubricated they work well. If brass shavings and other crud is allowed to build up under the extractor, or if the plunger ejector or the extractor is allowed to seize up, that is when they misbehave. Breakfree CLP keeps mine ticking.

I rebarreled my Model 70 PF in .300 WM to .404 Jeffrey and sent it to Dennis Olson to make it feed. He converted to CRF and made it feed for $465.

Masterifleman,

I did not know you could have a Model 70 PF converted to CRF. Does the bolt need to be changed or just modified.

BigB

Very interesting Masterifleman, tell us how he did the conversion? I have a push feed FN in 458 so it may be of interest.

Stu

I have a .458 pushfeed Ruger No. 1 ,It works just fine every shot.

I have heard that the push feed M1 Garands worked pretty well too.

Harry Selby used a push feed Model 70 in 458 after his 416 Rigby became too worn. The Rigby was rebarelled by Rigby and is now in the USA.
Selby reloaded his cartridges, breaking down leftovers at the end of hunting season to avoid compressed powder caking. All of this was recited in American Rifleman a few years ago.

It is highly unlikely a push feed will get you in trouble , ever . I don't have one but would not turn my nose at a pf rifle that was chambered for a good cartridge that fit my shoulder . People get a little far out on the pro's and cons . The only pf I would be stay away from is the Remington with its undersized extractor and that can't be much of a real world problem either . Spent almost 30 years in rural Alaska and have never encountered a situation where a push feed would have created a problem . Gun writers hype .

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Originally posted by SR4759:
I have heard that the push feed M1 Garands worked pretty well too.

The ones I used to fire certainly did. CRF is overhyped. I have both types. They both work, if the shooter doesn't get stupid and shortstroke a pushfeed.

Finn Aagaard, used one like that, never let him down. But what did he know, he was just a PH for many years, and used it mostly to follow and finnish critters wounded by clients.

It says super grade on bottom, pretty clean supposedly shot twice.

BigB

Nice looking rifle