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Originally posted by Pyzda:
Todd

You are so dumb, that's not even funny. The WORD "Concrete beam" was put into the text deliberately as a "sarcastic remark".

It doesn't mean that there is a concrete beam in the jess obstructing the spine.

I'm not a slightest surprise that there is a strong believe that a spine/head first shot is bad and is not recomended.

The "utroucious shots" from the youtube and it's an obvious that they would be lucky if they hit an elle. anywhere from 50 yards away.



Gents

You do whatever you do and I'll keep doing what we've been doing for more than 30 years.

The day when I won't be able to hit somewhere 5" x 80" puny target within 100 yards I'll go to the church to take my punishement.

I'll get circumsized and I'll start believing that there is a God.

It's good to have a good fun until the next bloke who will be pissing on your foot will be me.

Pyzda

Gents

please keep your pants up, there is no point to be so excited to drop them just yet.

If you took to my last post individually it's not my problem.

I never said, that all the Yanks can't shoot. Shit many thousands of them can shoot beyond believe so as the Australians. Germans, Russians, Poms, Finns, Arabs, Afgans, etc.etc.

I also didn't mentioned who this un-fit fat lards are, so it's not my problem if some may think it's them who I'm refering to.

This dumb thing about posting photos and youtube clips is up to the individual, but it's not me.

I'm not a sentimental person whatsoever, personally I'dont have a single photo of me when I was a kid, from an army, work, top level sport, got married, hunting, shooting, rifles, my wife, my daughter, her wedding, my sister, my perents, etc.etc.

If I was able to shoot a .25" 10 shot group off hand with 5 pouds unbraked .50 BMG I can assure you it wouldn't be on the youtube.

Unless someone else would to put it there.

However this is far too hard to explain this to the modern society of softcocks, who just have to have a photo of every piece of shit there is.

I'm a wanna be as I always wanted 10" long cock and a $100 million, unfortunitely I have smaller cock and far less $$.

Appart from that I don't need anything else, as I'm happy with everything what I have.

I joined this forum for a single purpose, that was to get some info from Ed Hubel on his monster cartridges. Nothing more nothing less.

Todd

You are not in the danger from me, but from the anties who take every piece off shit on board and use it in their unti-gun, anti-hunting propaganda.

I do exactly the same as you and I enjoy every second of it.

I have one true friend for 33 years and the rest is "the people I know".

He weighs 130 pounds and he too shoots 40-60 full power rounds from his .460wea. in a single session.

When I joined I wasn't warned that I have to be of the right colour, type perfect english, agree to the every sentiment flow, produce lot of photos and youtube clips, love and drool over nice rifles, need to have CEB bullets, provide place of residence, bank account details and the size of my cock.


Pyzda

Well said Pyzda-I respect your stance on all of this!

Also anyone who shoots 50 rds of 460 Weatherby in a single session has or had the same addiction I had.I dedicate this song to people like us!
rehab

Can't say I am going to miss being away from AR for a month. This place just gets weirder and weirder. Perhaps it is time to start an invitation only forum. Sad.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Well said Pyzda-I respect your stance on all of this!

Shootavay

Thanks, but you should stay far away from me as you never know what they are up to.

If I were you I would now invest some serious money into a self security elecronic systems.

You live so close to the Yanks that despite their country is broke they still may send after you a muffled Black Hawk assasin crew or worst an Un-man drone firing a missile.

Pyzda

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When I joined I wasn't warned that I have to be of the right colour, type perfect english, agree to the every sentiment flow, produce lot of photos and youtube clips, love and drool over nice rifles, need to have CEB bullets, provide place of residence, bank account details and the size of my cock.

Well out of that lot, the only thing I can say is I don't fit the mold !!!

I might be "white" but many would still say fugging ugly
Far from perfect English, definitely do not "go with the flow",
even been banned twice from AR don't post photos or video,
quite often argue with Michael, Todd and others over CEB bullets, bullet performance and OSR,
never said where I live, never listed bank details and well, comparing
size is something I'll leave to you and shootaway in your dark cabin


And I think the above would apply to quite a few good people on here
who post in the DR and Big Bore sections as from what I see, most are
not "run of the mill, follow the leader, sprout BS types".
Most are too knowledgeable and have no problem "calling out"
someone who BS's, often with facts and practical experience.


Oh, and by the way, what is wrong with sending in a team to take
someone out or using an "Un-man drone firing a missile" ???
Should be more of it including within the borders of the USA !

This thread is a prime example of what happens when trolls start throwing FUD. What started as a relevant topic regarding DG hunting tactics has now degenerated into something that has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP. This is the result of too much hesitation to exercise the BAN as a control tool to ensure the viability of AR, IMO.

As to the OP.
I agree most people don't shoot enough.
I am fortnate to be able to shoot in my back yard, but even so, find myself being a fair weather shooter.
Probably more than most but definetly not enough.
Bill73, is an example of the other extreme, he shoots a ton, and not just from a bench, though he does a fair bit of that when developing loads.
But then I have seen him whack a Wildebeest at 300M off the cuff, with a 338 Laupa mag.
Not a Big bore, but not a pussycat either.
He routinely snapshoots his 470 at warties on the run.

I reload so there really is little excuse for not practicing more.

Nitro out.

Pyzda- a lil confused. You said you were ex military. Exactly Which military taught you to run around in Indisn country with a round not chambered? I've heard the Israelis tried this, but seems pretty stupid to me. Not how I was taught and I was taught by the best of the best if you get my drift. You should know better in any case! safe gun handling is between the ears! I hunt dangerous game exactly the same way! Never a danger to my team
Or to myself.-Rob

Not to worry Rob, as I believe Pyzda has now been banned from AR along with some other recent Trolls!

Semper Fi

Lionhunter- Oh Well, As trolls go, he was more interesting than most. Definitely a lot of alky was consumed during some of his better tirades! -Rob

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
No dog in this fight, biggest things I have killed was a moose and a musk ox. My starting point for taking a shot is a behind the shoulder heart/lung or on the shoulder to try and break the animal down and be ready to shoot again if things go wobbly. Will that not work on a cape buffalo or water buffalo?

I know how moose eats, how is musk ox. A buddy of mine has one on the wall (along wiith just about every thing else) It is a very interesrting mount.

JD

One of my pet peeves is seeing some one spend 10 k+ on a hunt walk up to a animal with a very expensive rifle , and have to put up sticks to hit the bucket size kill zone at 35 yards. Please spend some time and money and learn how to shoot! Your life and the lives around you may depend on it.


The only thing most people get from shooting 60 rounds of 458 lott or the 460 at full power is soft in the head. I am 6 foot tall, 250 lbs, and use to do full contact Karate. I have shaken off more than a few full contact roundhouse kicks to the head (My wife says that explains a lot about my mental abilities). I am not recoil shy. Before I got old, I used handle 100 full power rounds each of 375 and 416 rem on a range day, 40 or 50 of the 470 nitro, and 25 or 30 of 505 gibbs before looseing the ability to break shots with out flinching. Those kind of training session leave you tired and some what punch drunk. There are just a couple of guys who post here that can handle that kind of pounding and still shoot well. It took years of training to get there. In top form, I was able to break clay targets off hand at 200b yards with my 505, and knock over steel pig targets at 300 yards with my 416. I know a little about offhand shooting and big bores. Shootaway you are not near ready to give advice on shooting big bores, round count does't make you a shooter, it's being able to performe that counts. I have seen the video and targets you have posted, you are not there yet. You are getting better, but you have a ways to go. PY your just full of shit!


JD

JD,if I am not mistaken you are a scope shooter.You shoot your big bores with a scope.It is difficult to shoot with open sights especially express sights.I guess you have not shot in very cold weather with open sights at 100yds standing on a pile of snow to see what affect it has on steadying your rifle.I have shot 100rds of full power 458 lott rds in a session and have returned to do it the next day and the next.I learned something from that(besides getting injured).As far as shooting at long distances offhand with a scope it is easy.I used to do it about 20yrs ago at 300 yds.I would hit a CD offhand with every shot.
Let us see a video of you shooting your big bores with open sights at 50 yds and beyond.
Let us see if your advice is worth listening to.
Let us see you shoot an open sight 308 at 100yds offhand on a cold day on a eneven surface.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
JD,if I am not mistaken you are a scope shooter.You shoot your big bores with a scope.It is difficult to shoot with open sights especially express sights.I guess you have not shot in very cold weather with open sights at 100yds standing on a pile of snow to see what affect it has on steadying your rifle.I have shot 100rds of full power 458 lott rds in a session and have returned to do it the next day and the next.I learned something from that(besides getting injured).As far as shooting at long distances offhand with a scope it is easy.I used to do it about 20yrs ago at 300 yds.I would hit a CD offhand with every shot.
Let us see a video of you shooting your big bores with open sights at 50 yds and beyond.
Let us see if your advice is worth listening to.
Let us see you shoot an open sight 308 at 100yds offhand on a cold day on a eneven surface.

I shoot a 1x4 scope on my 470, because it is faster and more positive with my old eyes in all light conditions. The year you came down and shot at the hoot and shoot, you saw me win the speed event with the scope set on 1 power on my 470 with full hose loads. I broke two gal jugs in 1.5 seconds, what most don't know, is that I chose to play it safe and wait for the second jug to hit the ground before shooting. It was knocked off the stand by the first jug comeing apart. I had regained sight picture while it was falling and most likey could have hit it. If the milk jug had stayed on the stand I could have broken it in 1.2-1.3 second. In good light with a ghost ring I am just as fast.
I always choose to use the best tool for the job, It's been proven several times that a low power big bore scope is faster in trained hands than Iron sights except at point blank ranges where sights less important than gun fit..

If I remennber right, you wacked your eye with a little old scope sighted 375 H&H that left you quite shaken. That as I recall started your intrest in Iron sights. I shoot my 505 with max loads with a 1x4 burris and have not had a problem with the scope. I am not much slower with it than I am with my 470. It takes more skill and recoil mangament to shoot a real big bore with a scope.

To be honest at 60 I am slowing down a little, mostly becouse my problem with my hands don"t allow me to practice like I use to. George Your shooting has improved, but your not to point where you should preach to the group here.
It comes off badly when you do.

JD

JD,I started to shoot the big bores with open sights about three years before coming to the big bore shoot.There are posts here that can prove that.Shooting large calibers offhan d with scopes is something I have not done.I have done alot of shooting scoped 308 offhand but it is not the same thing.At the end off the shoot I was offered to shoot some members rifles and justed wanted to enjoy watching others shoot.One kind fellow insisted-he had a Marlin scoped lever action,40 caliber-something like a 458win.I saw it had a very short stock and mentioned my worry to him.I then saw that the scope had the rubber covers and I thought I would be alright.I was wrong and gut a small scope cut.I also shot someones double rifle.
Shooting with open sights requires skill-especially beyond 25yds.
JD,50 yard video needed by you.

Just in case anyone still remembers what this thread was about, the Big Bore association in RSA do some fairly useful practice (http://www.bigbore.org/).

Not affiliated with them - never have been, but know some of the people.