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Copied from the Wildcat Forum since traffic is pretty low over there.

I am looking for a .410"-grooved/.402"-bored barrel, will be calling PAC-NOR to ask the bore spec on their .410-grooved barrel.
They do not show it at their web site.

Sumbuddy who know?

I might end up using just about any ol' +40-caliber.

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Thinking about the .500 Buhmiller as a tribute to "The Flathead Genius" of Kalispell gave me another idea.
Another tribute to a personal hero, Ted Williams, aka "Thumper."

He hit .406 in the 1941 season, on the eve of WW II and Korea that interrupted his baseball career at its peak ...
well, you know the rest.

Why not another .406-caliber cartridge?
Not just a lever action 40-65 WCF, or a BPCR using paper-patched soft lead.
Those are mere bunts compared to the sort of homer I have in mind. tu2

I approached my gunsmith about the .406 Ted Williams idea. He said he will consider it, if I get the barrel, reamer, stock, action and some test ammo together.

However, as a further condition he stated that the chamber must be cryogenically stress relieved, and there must be adequate head space,
to allow a head separation with the first
shot. animal



Hey, no lie, that is what he said.
I thought it was funny, could hardly stop laughing.
No disrespect meant to Ted's cryo-preserved head.

I am working on the idea, but it will have to wait until after the .500 Buhmiller is done.
Sorry Ted.
coffee

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Do not use that "gun" smith.
What are you thinking as to a base case for your 406? Because there are a few good ones out there already. What rifle do you want to shoot it in? I like the 40 cals and have done several versions of them.


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Let Tom do it....you won't regret it!



Guys,
Thanks for the replies.
The gunsmith is a comedian, and a good one, gunsmith and comedian.
I think he could be as serious about this as I am, in a while, after we both stop bursting out in laughter everytime I mention it.

Anyway,

I am in the preliminary planning stages for this, just looking ahead ...



... to the next wildcat after the .500 Buhmiller.

I am open to suggestions for the parent case,
rimless or belted for a bolt action.

I am hoping to find a barrel with .410"-groove diameter and .402"-bore diameter.
Average those numbers and you get .406, the nominal for the .406 Ted Williams Thumper.

Hey, the 405 WCF uses .411" bullets.
The 406 TWT could use .410" bullets.

If the 404 Jeffery was named for being a +40-bore 4-shooter (40+4) magazine rifle, which is arguable,
then the 406 TWT could be named for being a +40-bore 6-shooter (40+6) magazine rifle.

Maybe something on the 30-06, .375 H&H, .375 Ruger, or 404 Jeffery case head.
Those are all easy enough to meet the +40+6 criterion with,
and I am thinking a COaL of 3.6" would be coolest in a drop-boxed Winchester M70,
or 3.8" in a CZ 550 Magnum.

I'll post this on the Big Bore Forum to see if I can stir up any discussion, helpful or not, its all interesting to me. tu2

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RIP,
Have you been satisfied with Pac-nor barrels?
How do they compare with others you tried?
 
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Yes, I like tu2 PAC-NOR tu2 very much.
I am going to go now and see what their bore diameter is for their .410"-grooved barrel.

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I did get through by telephone to PAC-NOR just now, and was told their .410"-grooved barrel had a bore-diameter of only .405". Eeker
Mighty shallow rifling.
And the only twist they have now is 1:16", with 1:28" of yore discontinued.


Making progress on the Wildcat Forum, thanks to dpcd:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...091065922#3091065922

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I only use Douglas barrels and I buy them six to ten at a time.
 
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