I'm getting some H&H catalog reprints from Cornell Publishing that will answer this question.

But they won't be here for a bit, so I thought I'd ask..

Did Holland & Holland make their pre-war .375 H&H rifles with magnum and or single square bridge magnum actions?

The rife I'm referring to had a forward folding hood o the front sight, a small 1/4 rib and usually had 1 standing and 2 folding rear sight blades.

I have some pics from Holland's catalog that show a mil-surplus action charger hump and all plus some pics of a .375 H&H and .300 H&H but don't know how to post them.

Did they use the magnum actions much or at all?

Allen

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I have some pics from Holland's catalog that show a mil-surplus action charger hump and all plus some pics of a .375 H&H and .300 H&H but don't know how to post them.

That charger hump is not a sign of an ex military action. The early commercial actions had the charger hump(Mauser "Standard Modell").

Do you mean pre WW1 ?

They made 375H&H's on all types of actions,
including Magnum.

It generally just depended on what the
client ordered.

Remember Rigby controlled the Mauser supply
so that may have had some bearing on it.

they also resorted to "sporterizing" P14's and P17's.

Rich

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Originally posted by AllenBosely:

The rife I'm referring to had a forward folding hood o the front sight, a small 1/4 rib and usually had 1 standing and 2 folding rear sight blades.

Allen

All my Holland bolt guns had a "forward folding hood". Not saying all did, but all mine did.

I think one or two had a hold up moon sight.

Ribs, no ribs.


With a bespoke makers such as Holland, a lot of this type of stuff depended on what the client ordered. If he wanted a flag mast flying the union jack on the rear sights, and was prepared to pay for it, then so be it, he got it.

It all came down to what the customer ordered and was prepared to pay for.

I agree re P14 and M17's, I was going to put that but couldn't remember when they started using them.

Sharpshooter is correct. For a while I owned a H&H takedown 375H&H, cased, built on an Enfield action. I sure wish I still had that piece of history!

I have a 1913 H&H 375H&H takedown on a square bridge magnum mauser action. Quarter rib, standing and one 1 folding rear sight blade. Front hood is removable, and front sights changeable, other stored in trap grip cap.
The rifle is traditional take down, not remove barelled action from stock takedown. Is the only one I've seen in magnum mauser.
Rifle fits me beautifully
Cheers, Chris

MAUSER built on request of English gunmakers, i think Rigby, magnum actions around 1900 ! They used this actions for building dangerous game rifles with cartridges like the 375H&H, 404,... Only Westley Richards used standart action for the 425WR ! Very different on the continent ! The German gunmakers used standart actions for all cartridges, 500 Jeffery too !

single/double square bridge actions were unusual, magnum actions were even more unusual and rare.

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MAUSER built on request of English gunmakers, i think Rigby, magnum actions around 1900 ! They used this actions for building dangerous game rifles with cartridges like the 375H&H, 404,... Only Westley Richards used standart action for the 425WR ! Very different on the continent ! The German gunmakers used standart actions for all cartridges, 500 Jeffery too !

This is one reason the great old brittish (bolt)guns and ctgs are so special. Then and now. As stated, WR and Schuler from a different school.

as usual IMHO, IMHO, etc...

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ALF, that number fits in well with my Magnum Mauser H&H 375 being made in 1913, my serial number is not much higher than that. Cheers, Chris

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Originally posted by ALF:

The Mauser magnum action was built on request of John Rigby in 1912 with the first rifle on that action possibly sold in August of 1912.

So claiming that the 375 H&H or any other H&H saw a magnum action fitted prior to this would be fallacy

Hu..Here I always thought the magnum-mauser was made to fit the 400/350 on request by Rigby in 1899?.
What shall I do with my magnum-mauser from Rigby made in 1902?. Shall I trow it away because it`s not a real mauser ?

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Thanks Alf!

I knew you could set the record straight.( atleast for me)
I know the .505Gibbs is a prewar cartridge(1912-13).When did Gibbs actually figure out that their .505 should/could fit into a the big Mauser?. It must have been after the .416Rigby...but regardsless of what, Gibbs were fast to take advantage the magnummauser action

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