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Hello again I'm going to bother. My question now is the following, between 416 Rigby and 458 Rigby Lott, what one is easier to reload?, Which of them has more components on the market-pods, shells and cheaper? Thank you. Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | ||
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I believe you mean the 416 Rigby and 458 Lott (not Rigby Lott). The 458 Lott is based on the .375 H&H case. In general rifles for the 458 Lott can be had cheaper than the 416 Rigby, because so many actions can accomodate it, unlike the 416 Rigby. Almost any 458 Winchester Magnum rifle can be rechambered to .458 Lott very simply, assuming your mag box is long enough. Also, 458 bullets abound and are alot cheaper, even more so in Europe where 416 components are hard to find and expensive. Also uses less powder. The 458 Lott is cheaper to reload because of this and the same rifle can use .458 Winchester Magnum ammunition. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Hello, thank you very much for your answer, I really want to reload, sure I buy a 458 Lott. The problem is that in Spain there is to do a course and then apply for permission to reload. But with those gauges and their prices, I believe it is necessary to recharge. Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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Oscar, Reloading is a very rewarding hobby by itself and with the big bores it is even more necessary. One box of factory loads for my .375 H&H is $55.00+ at the store down the street. What I would do if I was you is work backwards. Start at the source for components in Spain and see what is available then make you decision from that. PM me with your mailing address and I will see what I have for literature that I can send you. It might be old & beat up but the data will still be good. I have one manual that is about 30 years old. I learned a lot about reloading from reading the manuals. ****************************** There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor polite, nor popular -- but one must ask, "Is it right?" Martin Luther King, Jr. | |||
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Thanks for the offer, as has the rifle first thing I want to do is dedicate myself to recharge, so that way I can shoot in a more or less cheap. Of course I will take into account its offer and will have news from me. I sincerely thank you, A greeting, Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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The Lott will be way cheaper to feed than the Rigby. I have RSMs in both 416 Rigby and Lott and like them both. The Rigby brass is more expensive as is the powder charge! The Rigby lives in the 100-105gr charge weight while the Lott can be from 70-85grs. The Lott brass is economical and the Rem 405s are nice bullets for practice and light game (varmints too!). As far as ease of reloading both are fine. You need a good crimp on both but watch out for excessive crimps that move the shoulder on the Rigby and buldge the case on the Lott. A Lee crimp die is nice for both. The Rigby with lighter bullets holds the trajectory crown for longer distances. The Lott with full 500gr+ loads is a thumper. For cheaper the Lott hands down. I love my Lott but also appreciate my Rigby! John There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR! | |||
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Thanks for your reply John, I'll try to clarify as to the cartridge to choose for my rifle. I think that I choose the 458 Lott, but still I have to save many euros jejeje. Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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And abusing your kindness, you could detail the basic equipment to begin to recharge? Thank you. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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ovny, you should move this over to the reloading section, rather than leaving it here in the Big Bore section. You will get a lot more responses to this type of question. Perhaps a moderator could move it for you? _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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One is as easy as the other to reload..The question is can you get the components for both or which one would be the most likely to buty bullets, powder for where you live. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I went with the 458WM because of the avaliability of bullets. Here in the states we have the 45-70 which uses the same bullets. I have a 45-70. In Spain do you have more .416 or more .458 guns? For general reloading check out RCBS RC Supreme Master Reloading Kit Item:XJ-214924 at www.cabelas.com. $269.99 Add dies Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension 3-Die Set 458 Lott Product #: 949519 $35.99 www.midwayusa.com Add bullets For plinkers Oregon Trail Laser-Cast Bullets 45-70 Government (459 Diameter) 405 Grain Lead Flat Nose Box of 250 $63.99 Midwayusa.com OR Remington Bullets 45-70 Government (458 Diameter) 405 Grain Soft Point Box of 100 (Bulk Packaged) $28.99 I will let someone else pick a good heavy hunting bullet. Add brass Currently out of stock Hornady Brass 458 Lott Box of 50 $46.99 Add poweder, try to get this locally Add primers, try to get this locally | |||
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Question: How many times can 458 be reloaded? Right now I am using 458WM. I am shooting reasonably mild loads. | |||
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You're right, to see if a moderator can put this thread in the section charge. Thank you. Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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Hey, I've seen that in Spain there is a delegation from Midway, but their prices are much higher than is the United States. So there are all kinds of shells, brass, dies, presses and other elements of recharge, but as I said are very expensive. Thank you, Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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Oscar, prices will almost always be lower in US catalogs but remember the US catalogs show VAT free prices, whereas most European catalogs include VAT (which is 18,6% in France). Here is a link to a supplier in France who can probably ship to Spain many of the components you will be looking for. http://www.tecmagex.com/ _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Thanks, I'm going to do if you miss one eye and check prices. A greeting, Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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