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Counterfeit Jeffrey 450-400

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27 October 2021, 07:18
JCS271
Counterfeit Jeffrey 450-400
Have any of you guys ever seen or heard about this. This is from "Gunny" R Lee Ermeys personal collection. The description of events when the rifle was fired is disturbing.....


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/912282832


The rest of the collection....

https://www.ebrwebstore.com/r-lee-ermey-auctions-2/


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27 October 2021, 10:06
Sarg
Looks like it was a nice rifle back in the day, not a "Counterfeit" as such, was proper Double rifle with Chopper Lump barrels, now with very worn bores, looks like a restock in India & something bad happened to the hook & then it was deactivated by the looks ?

Thanks for posting as very interesting to see it !
27 October 2021, 12:04
cal pappas
The rest of the collection was not too impressive. Nice Winchesters but drileld for scope mounts. Really not much to look at.


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27 October 2021, 15:58
arkypete
I'd buy it for a couple of bucks plus shipping. Would make a an interesting wall wall hanger.


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28 October 2021, 00:01
JCS271
So are you guys saying this is a real Jeffrey, NOT a counterfeit?

I am not an expert but the metal fit looks pretty bad to me.

Of course what do I know, I hunt with Rugers! Smiler


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28 October 2021, 06:51
Michael Robinson
That looks to me like a fake hand made in India. In other words, a bespoke hunk of junk. thumbdown


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28 October 2021, 17:48
jeffeosso
picture 17


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28 October 2021, 18:13
Omnivorous_Bob
quote:
That looks to me like a fake hand made in India. In other words, a bespoke hunk of junk.


Well, considering that Jeffery never made any of their own guns, what is a counterfeit Jeffery really? Maybe this just came out of the shops of one of their lesser known subcontractors on the subcontinent? sofa

In all seriousness, I wouldn't pay $50 as a cabin wall hanger, even given the ownership history that they are really trying to sell. I've got my grandfather's 120 year old 22 that had the stock burned off in a house fire, has a furniture from an uncle who was a teenager at the time, and was used hard by generations of kids for a century, and still has vastly better fit and finish. I would love to know the story, however!

Bob


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18 November 2021, 00:11
pacecars
I do like the Westley Richards
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/912334959
18 November 2021, 20:16
bobc
AS far as we know, the Jeffrey doubles were made by Leonard and have a characteristic 4 digit number on barrel under forend. Nothing in this rifle. The proof marks look very poorly done in comparison to my A Hollis 450-400 made by Leonard. Bob
06 December 2021, 11:22
Colin Masters
Mr. Ermy should have talked to somebody, because he got had.

At least he was not selling fake concert tickets for $100.

I’ve seen people get beat up for that.