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It took me at least a couple of months to recover from an accidental hit in the clavicle from firing this rifle(sand bag slipped out from under and rifle was in free flight striking me hard).Since then I molly coated my bullets and switched to 550 grain Woodleighs.I fired a fouler(hole covered by the tape)and shot three more at 50yds from the bench.I am glad my shoulder stood up to it all easily.I then moved the same target to 100yds and fired only one round.I called it quits then.I now just installed a sightly higher front sight-that will bring me down a bit and moved my rear sight to the left.I will try and shoot it gain next week before the range closes for the holidays and report back.The rifle has a Douglas barrel.

[URL= ]50 and 100yds off the bench/open sights.[/URL]
 
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Looks like you're ready for Buff.
 
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Looks like you're ready for Buff.


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My two custom Lotts sure like those 550 grain Woodleighs.
 
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The Lott, heavily loaded is quite the kicker. Had one in a Ruger #1 and after 2 shots sent that bugger down the road. I was dizzy with a severe headache for an hour afterwards. Replaced it with a Ruger M77 RSM, which is a bit heavier and built for the Lott.
 
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The Lott, heavily loaded is quite the kicker. Had one in a Ruger #1 and after 2 shots sent that bugger down the road. I was dizzy with a severe headache for an hour afterwards. Replaced it with a Ruger M77 RSM, which is a bit heavier and built for the Lott.


The first time out shooting it in a while the muscles are strong and can take a few rounds easily.If one returns to the range the next week their muscles will be much softer from the last session and they will really feel the recoil.
 
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At 100m I would be happy with that point of impact.
At 50m it should be where your first 50m shot ended up.
 
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At 100m I would be happy with that point of impact.
At 50m it should be where your first 50m shot ended up.


The round shot at 100yds is the one highest on the target.I had loaded an extra grain or two on some rounds to gradually work up to full power and it is likely one with an extra grain.I will try to get all my rounds to shoot nearest bullseye with the single fixed standing blade(the one used here) and use the second leaf sight for two hundred yards.
 
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saw pics of the rifle on ralph's website ! very very nice !
 
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Quite like the Flag Safty on a couple big bore rifles I have used. Just practice their use
 
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Great caliber, shot it a Lott when I was 30, shot it a Lott less when I was 50, At 60 I shot the 404 a Lott more, and the Lott less, and I never shot the Lott a Lott after that!! I shot one or two Cape Buffalo with the Lott, and didn't have to shoot them a Lott, two shots would be a Lott with a Lott, its a real killer.. faint

Im sorry, I been drinking Christmas Cheer!


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Great caliber, shot it a Lott when I was 30, shot it a Lott less when I was 50, At 60 I shot the 404 a Lott more, and the Lott less, and I never shot the Lott a Lott after that!! I shot one or two Cape Buffalo with the Lott, and didn't have to shoot them a Lott, two shots would be a Lott with a Lott, its a real killer.. faint

Im sorry, I been drinking Christmas Cheer!


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Really good shooting for that power level with express sights . With the slightly taller front sight you should be right in the center.
Good shooting !


Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."
 
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It seems that I can't stop getting flyers with uncoated A-frames.That is the only reason for switching to the Woodleighs.As far as the rear sight goes, I knew from before that it must be sighted in at 100yds that way it would be dead on at 50 and 100yds.If one adjusted the rear sight for 50yds first it would be way off at 100yds as was the case with mine.IMO only one rear sight blade is needed for both 50 and 100yds distances.
 
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I am sorry for the delay.I was at the range today to follow up on my shooting.I installed a higher front sight and moved my rear sight to the left(a little too much).The first shot was far left at 50yds.I moved the rear sight a bit to the right but not enough and fired again.It still shot too much to the left.I then moved it a little more and shot the three shot group in the centre white circle.I then moved the target to 100yds and shot a single shot with the same fixed sight blade and hit the orange circle.I had not cleaned the rifle from the previous outing except for the powder fouling.I am very happy with the results.I was shooting full power loads with the 550gr Woodleighs.
[URL= ]50 and 100yds off the bench/open sights[/URL]
 
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So now that you have your bolt gun shooting to your liking, how are you going to decide between your bolt gun and the double gun when next you decide to chase Dangerous Game.
 
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So now that you have your bolt gun shooting to your liking, how are you going to decide between your bolt gun and the double gun when next you decide to chase Dangerous Game.


Good question.I have asked myself that.I had lost a little interest in bolt rifles and was more into doubles but after getting my Martini/Satterlee Lott interest has rekindled.I would like to take all my rifles to Africa so I don't know.I guess I will shoot them until then and decide.I like the extended range capability of the Lott versus the 500NE.That may be better for some game but I have not shot the Searcy at 100yds and beyond to see how it does.
 
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There's a classic first-world problem!

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I am facing the same problem. I have a Buff and Eland hunt in August, thinking my 450NE for buff and my 400H&H as a scoped backup for the Buff and for the Eland. I also have a 458 Lott that I am very comfortable with...
Choices, or as Bill/Oregon says......
"a classy Problem"

Good question.I have asked myself that.I had lost a little interest in bolt rifles and was more into doubles but after getting my Martini/Satterlee Lott interest has rekindled.I would like to take all my rifles to Africa so I don't know.I guess I will shoot them until then and decide.I like the extended range capability of the Lott versus the 500NE.That may be better for some game but I have not shot the Searcy at 100yds and beyond to see how it does.[/QUOTE]
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zephyr:
I am facing the same problem. I have a Buff and Eland hunt in August, thinking my 450NE for buff and my 400H&H as a scoped backup for the Buff and for the Eland. I also have a 458 Lott that I am very comfortable with...
Choices, or as Bill/Oregon says......
"a classy Problem"

The 450NE for buff would be great.So would an open sighted Lott.You could use both of these for the Eland as well.
 
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One of the attractive features of my Lott is it being trim and shorter and better handling because of the special size Satterlee action or the small ring magnum action.
 
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The next time out I will test for 200yds.
 
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I have a CZ 550 lux Lott at my smiths.He already changed the bolt handle.It will then be rebarreled,have a 3 pos safety, Wiebe bottom metal,Blackburn or Timney trigger and Silvers pad installed.I can't wait to shoot that too.I will get the stock sanded down too.The rifle was a dysfunctional 2000 dollar rifle when I bought it new.
 
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It seems that I can't stop getting flyers with uncoated A-frames.That is the only reason for switching to the Woodleighs.As far as the rear sight goes, I knew from before that it must be sighted in at 100yds that way it would be dead on at 50 and 100yds.If one adjusted the rear sight for 50yds first it would be way off at 100yds as was the case with mine.IMO only one rear sight blade is needed for both 50 and 100yds distances.


I have been coating/tumbling most all the bullets I shoot since around 04. First with Moly. Now I use Hexagonal Boron Nitride. I am very impressed with the HBN. My cold bore shot is always centered in the group. Groups tend to be small to tiny. It reduces friction heat and the bore cleans easily. Good stuff.


Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."
 
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It seems that I can't stop getting flyers with uncoated A-frames.That is the only reason for switching to the Woodleighs.As far as the rear sight goes, I knew from before that it must be sighted in at 100yds that way it would be dead on at 50 and 100yds.If one adjusted the rear sight for 50yds first it would be way off at 100yds as was the case with mine.IMO only one rear sight blade is needed for both 50 and 100yds distances.


I have been coating/tumbling most all the bullets I shoot since around 04. First with Moly. Now I use Hexagonal Boron Nitride. I am very impressed with the HBN. My cold bore shot is always centered in the group. Groups tend to be small to tiny. It reduces friction heat and the bore cleans easily. Good stuff.

I have yet to hear about HBN.It sounds interesting.Is that a grease like Molly?
 
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Whats this stuff on center at 50 yards etc with a DGR??..

You were perfect at an inch high at 50 yards. In most rifles that's also close to an inch high at 100. However in some rifles it is deas on at 100. depending...
BTW you needed to go left just a tad to center.

In a charge situation, I like to see my POI on top of my hold. In other words If I want to punch the critter in the eye, I want to hold just under the eye..I prefer to see my target. Also my method extends the ranging capabilities to one degree or another..

Also I'm still satisfied at 3 inches high at a 100 yards with any rifle, irons or scope, but it apparently doesn't work for everyone. I grew up using the Jack O'Connor method, and it just comes natural to me.

Not written in stone, others like to cover up the target. To each his own.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
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No, a dry white powder. Its easy to tumble on. Has a much higher melting temp than moly, doesnt rub off . And works very well.
It keeps the cold bore shot inside the rifles group . As opposed to the cold bore shot being possibly a flyer.
I tumble it on with a rotary rock polisher. It only takes 1/8th teaspoon per 50, 286 gr 9.3 or 250-300 gr 375 bullets. I tumble in 1cup canning jars inside the rubber polisher drums for around 2 hours. I havent coated any 458 bullets yet with HBN. But will by spring . I like the rock polisher alot because it does a good job and is very quiet .


Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."
 
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I was out with it today.I fired 5 rounds at 100yds.All shot in the orange-no horizontal spread.The rifle is a straight shooter with a really good trigger.It seems like a trustworthy rifle.Next time out I will shoot it at 200yds.
 
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No, a dry white powder. Its easy to tumble on. Has a much higher melting temp than moly, doesnt rub off . And works very well.
It keeps the cold bore shot inside the rifles group . As opposed to the cold bore shot being possibly a flyer.
I tumble it on with a rotary rock polisher. It only takes 1/8th teaspoon per 50, 286 gr 9.3 or 250-300 gr 375 bullets. I tumble in 1cup canning jars inside the rubber polisher drums for around 2 hours. I havent coated any 458 bullets yet with HBN. But will by spring . I like the rock polisher alot because it does a good job and is very quiet .


Just an FYI: Be very, very careful how you handle anything containing boron. It is very bad for your health and you WILL pay a price if you in any way ingest it. Don't breath it and wash your hands after use.


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