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I have a cracked and repaired with dual steel cross bolts installed pre 64 Win 70 in 375 H&H. The stock has the original Winchester recoil pad on it that is fairly soft. How much better would a Decelerator be?

The collector value of the stock is gone; I can put that Win pad on another stock in a smaller caliber.


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New Winchesters use Declerator

Pads are about 50”0-75 bucks.

Install would be 25-50 bucks by a smith.
 
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I replaced the brown ventilated recoil pad on my Oberndorf Mauser Sporter 404J rifle with a red Old English Decelerator pad which made a huge difference in softening the felt recoil. The ventilated pad had been fitted in Africa before I got the rifle and after a few shots off the bench I would have a bruised shoulder. The butt on the Mauser is quite narrow so the footprint is small with recoil transmitted to the shoulder over a small area.
I ground the small size Decelerator pad to fit the butt profile and even when shooting with just a tee shirt I have no problem with felt recoil now.
The pad is about 15 years old now and shows no sign of any deterioration. If fitted properly the holes through the pad for the mounting screws are invisible as per the image below of the pad mounted on the Mauser.


 
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I had a sporting clays Decelerator fitted on my.45/70 Guide Gun several years ago. It made the little beastie a lot more fun to shoot with full house loads. No signs of deterioration yet.

I’m thinking about having one fitted to my .375 Whitworth as the original pad has become a brick.
 
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In case there is any lingering doubt. coffee



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In case there is any lingering doubt. coffee



Doesn't surprise me, the brown ventilated pad on my Japanese Miroku Sporter O/U shotgun is branded Miroku but made by Pacmayr (actually is their S325 Deluxe Upland and Skeet pad).
 
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Wow that is the best of both!!! I wonder where you can buy that Winchester marked Decelerator? I am going with Decelerator either way.


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Try Midwest Gun Works
 
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I replaced the brown ventilated recoil pad on my Oberndorf Mauser Sporter 404J rifle with a red Old English Decelerator pad which made a huge difference in softening the felt recoil. The ventilated pad had been fitted in Africa before I got the rifle and after a few shots off the bench I would have a bruised shoulder. The butt on the Mauser is quite narrow so the footprint is small with recoil transmitted to the shoulder over a small area.
I ground the small size Decelerator pad to fit the butt profile and even when shooting with just a tee shirt I have no problem with felt recoil now.
The pad is about 15 years old now and shows no sign of any deterioration. If fitted properly the holes through the pad for the mounting screws are invisible as per the image below of the pad mounted on the Mauser.




I love that pad but was told it wouldn't fit on my CZ 550 because it's too small?


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Decelerators come in three sizes. The large is plenty big. There used to be a lot more information provided on items. Pachmayer pads used to say if they had a steel insert and gave the dimension of them.

Last year I bought a Decelerator for my 30-06. I wanted a Red One. Red only came in Large size. A small would have worked. There was no mention of the steel insert or outline of it's dimension in the description at Midway or Brownells, wherever I ordered it from, nor on the package when it arrived. I fitted it to my gun and darned if I didn't expose the metal plate hidden in the pad. If they had it noted I could have positioned the pad lower on the stock.


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At the time I purchased the small size pad for my Mauser 404, the Old English Decelerator Skeet pad was only available in small and medium for the red colour as per Page 72 in the Lyman Catalogue I referenced at the time.
I see on the current Lyman website that they note red is only available in medium size for the same pad.

I can't fathom why they keep changing the availability of the colours in the various sizes of pads. Possibly just do intermittent production runs with the more popular colours and sizes running out of stock sooner than others.
 
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Midwest Gun Works


Here you go
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/GWP01

Just right for your pre64
 
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There are two sizes of the Decellerator pads, large/ medium, and small the Lge/med have the same size insert, the small another. Hole spacing for Lge/med is 3.120". the small is 2.87" Brownells used to sell a template for both that works when laying out the hole pattern so one does not cut into the insert. I salvaged mine from pads that I tried and failed by grinding into the insert.


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The Pachmayr pad templates which show the insert dimensions are available as a PDF on the Lyman website but here they are below.
Should be no excuse for grinding into the inserts but these things do happen.

 
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Thank you!


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The last two pads that I fitted had quality problems. The steel plate in one was off center and the other had a bubble in it. Of course I didn't find the defects until I had them almost completely fitted. This was the first time I ever had problems with these pads, which reminds me I still need to replace them.
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