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Why doesn't Wby chamber for the .500 A-Square?
13 February 2006, 07:36
500grainsWhy doesn't Wby chamber for the .500 A-Square?
They could call it the .500 Weatherby if they wanted to. The demand is certainly there.
13 February 2006, 07:46
Tex21Two reasons:
Weatherby didn't invent it; A-Square did.
It is doubtful A-Square desires to surrender the rights to their cartridge to allow Weatherby to change the name.
Still...
With Weatherby's love of all things fast and overly powerful, I'm surprised they haven't picked up the 500 A-Square as well. This would seem to the logical extension of the 460 - necking it up to .50 caliber.
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
13 February 2006, 07:50
Omnivorous_Bob500gn, I'm with you.
A fine cartidge, in keeping with their "biggest/badest" persona, practical, they could claim ol'Roy invented it in '47, vastly better lineage than an a^2, and they could sell even more of their 2-down push feeds.
Having said that, I have my Dad's W.German 300WM that I dearly love, but hunt with other guns.
Bob
DRSS
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13 February 2006, 08:50
GrandpasezMore important they should chamber
550 Mag.....Ed.
MZEE WA SIKU
13 February 2006, 15:25
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by hubel458:
More important they should chamber
550 Mag.....Ed.
My thoghts exactly! They would not have to deal with another brands name, then. AND it is the biggest!
Now, why Dan would suggest a DG chambering in a Weatherby, is to me a far more interesting question!
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
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Norway
13 February 2006, 18:03
jeffeossoActually,
wells' invented the 510x460.. AA just copied it
and yeah, if you want a monster, either 550 will do it for you...
remember, heh, before we start blasting push feeds, recall that all double rifles are push feeds!!!
jeffe
13 February 2006, 18:41
fla3006The bottom rifle in this pic was built in California sometime during the 60s, has no markings on the 30" Pendleton braked barrel, but the dies are marked 500-460Wby. The California seller speculated it is a Weatherby experimental rifle but could not confirm it. Is built on a plain-jane myrtle stock, Brevex action like the first 460s, polished similar to same period Weatherbys:
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13 February 2006, 18:53
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
It is doubtful A-Square desires to surrender the rights to their cartridge to allow Weatherby to change the name.
What rights?
A2 has no legal protection for the dimension of the 500 A2. Anyone can build rifles to that spec. and call them something else if they want.
13 February 2006, 20:29
GeorgeSI'm sure they based their decision on current market trends, and sales of similar cartridges in their lineup.
They must figure that if the .460Wby. hasn't taken the world by storm, a .500Wby (as offered by Weatherby in of their Mark V rifles) wouldn't either.
George
13 February 2006, 20:34
jeffeossoNeal said they kind of sneered at teh 550s as well...
bc is aint got a webby shoulder
13 February 2006, 20:34
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
quote:
Originally posted by Tex21:
It is doubtful A-Square desires to surrender the rights to their cartridge to allow Weatherby to change the name.
What rights?
A2 has no legal protection for the dimension of the 500 A2. Anyone can build rifles to that spec. and call them something else if they want.
Usually I would agree but after the Rick Jamison incedent, I don't know!!
13 February 2006, 20:41
Gringo CazadorIts my understanding that Wby chambers rifels in 338/06 Asquare, they may even make brass for it with wby headstamp, my guess not much demand for 500.
Billy,
High in the shoulder
(we band of bubbas)
13 February 2006, 21:44
AfricanHunterI think they should so it, if for no other reason to give some another reason the bitch about the Mark V push feed in a DG rifle!
13 February 2006, 22:23
ROSCOEI think weatherby is in trouble financially and doubt they will be introducing any new rifles anytime soon. Most of their sales come from the Vanguard line which they import from Europe. Not much money in the Mark V any more. To be honest I wonder if they are soon to fallow Winchester to the grave.
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13 February 2006, 23:40
M1Tankerquote:
Originally posted by ROSCOE:
Most of their sales come from the Vanguard line which they import from Europe.
You had best check your info. The Vanguards are made in Japan by the same firm that makes the Howa.
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13 February 2006, 23:44
AKAweatherby has already perfected the ultimate DG cartridge (460). Can't see how they can improve on that!
14 February 2006, 00:07
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by AKA:
weatherby has already perfected the ultimate DG cartridge (460). Can't see how they can improve on that!
yes, they perfected the worst possible DGR round and rifle at the same time.
Now, load it down to 2300-2400 fps, and you have a good round....
the invented the perfect big bore CASE... blow it straight, trim it off to 2.65" and put a 700gr pill in it...
no, wait, that's the 550express.....
jeffe
14 February 2006, 04:23
ROSCOEquote:
Originally posted by M1Tanker:
You had best check your info. The Vanguards are made in Japan by the same firm that makes the Howa.
My mistake...I knew it was over the pond, just picked the wrong pond!
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