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What are your thought on the new ruger M77 hawkeye Alaskan i myself like the caliber and rifle but wont buy it until it comes in stainless , why do you think they chose not to go stainless when naming it an Alaskan?
 
Posts: 869 | Location: Bellerose,NY USA | Registered: 27 July 2001Reply With Quote
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It is stainless in Alaskan Hawkeye. Black coated (like baked on Wilson Gunkote) is how I read it. That is better than the targret gray or shiny stainless they have used in the past. I hope the floorplate is steel instead of aluminum alloy, and I dislike a 20" barrel. 23" like the African would please me..
 
Posts: 28032 | Location: KY | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
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It has the alloy barrel same as the blued models.

To me the Alaskan model would be target grey stainless with a 24" barrel and laminate stock.

I may go for the african model myself. But I still havent heard why they are $300 more than the other hawkeye models.


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Posts: 9823 | Location: Montana | Registered: 25 June 2001Reply With Quote
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I am so looking foward to The 20 " Hawkeye Alaskan ...I think I'll keave mine in the bottom of my skiff for a while to check out its corossian resistance............ I would prefer the whole thing be Green...I just hope they put a 2nd recoil lug under the barrel or the stock will be toast within 600 rounds...A barrelband sling swivel would have been nice....But I,m not complaneing,, just happy its comeing out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posts: 3445 | Location: Copper River Valley , Prudhoe Bay , and other interesting locales | Registered: 19 November 2006Reply With Quote
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I hope it does not take years to hit the shelves, ie it's not repetition of Ruger Gold Label saga.
 
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There should be some deals around as the old Rugers get cleared out. Both new and used rifles should be available as the first adopters scramble to get their hands on the new ones.
 
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Sorry I was wrong, one of those delusions of what the Ruger Alakan Hawkeye ought to be.

I read the little Ruger 2007 annual that ST puts out for Ruger. Says the Hawkeye Alaskan in .375 Ruger is chrome-moly bead-blasted blue. That and the 20" barrel cinches it for me. I would not buy one. Rather rebarrel a 7mmRemMag that is target gray stainless.

I hear the target gray stainless finish is just a bead blasted stainless that is hot blued. Changes the color a little.
 
Posts: 28032 | Location: KY | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Hello,
I would not let the lack of "stainless" barrel stop me from buying the rifle for stock, trigger,and sights, are all different/improved over previous 77 Rifles. Lived in Alaska for sometime and the so called stainless rifles were no more prone to be rust proof than others in my experience. Salt water works on about anything and good maintenance is the best defence to corrosion, crud and grime.
The extra cost is just what it is, extra cost and thousands will pay it to obtain the rifle. Take a look at the classified section and dozens upon dozens are buying and trading to buy, obtain, etc. something new or different or percieved to be needed. Human nature.
I am glad to see Ruger come out with the new models for believe they are listening to the consumer a bit more than they used to do and that is a good thing.
 
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This is what I had dug up on the "Alaskan" finish:

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...=133108185#133108185

As far as extra cost goes:

- Ruger in the past added approx $75 for their std fixed sights and the Alaskan may have an upgrade/different front white bead (larger like NECG) that raises the cost even more.

- This new finish/coating is held under a patent and probably adds ++$$ to the cost.

- 375H&H recoil in a mkII factory reciever/stock is brutal and the "Alaskan"/"African" models may have additional lugs, reinforcements, etc. to hold up. As an example, the Scovill 375H&H conversion into the factory mkII 338WM rifle that many speak off only last about a dozen rounds before it destroyed the stock. Shoemaker has this rifle now and I do believe he needed to put it into a stronger synthetic stock to hold up. THis may explain the Hogue pillared stock for the "Alaskan" and the "African" is probably equally as beefed up.

- If either the "Alaskan" or "African" receives any additional hand fitting or assembly such as the RSM does, that also will add ++$$ to the cost.

A couple of their goals in designing the "Alaskan" version was for the metal parts to be up to handling Alaskan harsh conditions as well as the rifle needed to feed reliably and smoothly. This new finish is known in industry for wear and lubricity. Combine this with carbon steel and it should be as weather resistant as any current coatings and should have very low friction between moving parts without any gauling characteristics of stainless steel.

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Well, I lived in Alaska for 5 years and hunted about 30 days a year there, all I could do, and I want the stainless and the coating.

Galling of stainless in a bolt action is a non issue.
 
Posts: 28032 | Location: KY | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
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That thing won't be to market for many months ...... the #1 9.3X74R has been cataloged for over a year now, but still no rifles available. I'm getting tired of Ruger crying wolf !!!


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Posts: 1587 | Location: Eleanor, West Virginia (USA) | Registered: 20 April 2002Reply With Quote
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From what I have gathered from the tidbits avaliable is that one reason Ruger decided not to offer a 375 H&H on the standard M-77 is because the small recoil lug would not hold the action in wooden stocks. I think six rounds was all it took in mine. the new Ruger synthetic tupperware stock on it now seems to be holding quite well.
I imagine the new Ruger Alaskan will either have a much larger recoil lug or a barrel mounted one. I am anxious to see one at SHOT and to get my hands on one for this next season


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Posts: 4211 | Location: Bristol Bay | Registered: 24 April 2004Reply With Quote
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Heres is an a Hawkeye african for sale on gunsamerica.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976814448.htm

Same seller has several hawkeyes for sale.


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Posts: 9823 | Location: Montana | Registered: 25 June 2001Reply With Quote
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I really like a 20" bbled 375 H&H. I have had 2.
One a SAKO Handi rifle with the Mcmillian stock, my brother has it now, and I currenly use a Blaser R 93 Tracker [19 3/4" bbl].

I have seen no difference in acuracy out to 300 yards with the shorter bbls.

A @ 20" bbled 375 H&H is a very handy rifle.


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