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I just got a Rem 700 in 375 H&H> I mounted a Leuplod VX3 1.75x6 in Leupold QD mounts.
I have to turn the windage adjustment all the way to the left to get the rifle on paper>

I took the scope and mounts apart and lapped the rings (something I have never had to do before) I put the whole thing back together and the same thing!! The holes in the reciever don't apear to be out of alignment.

I have used this set up with sucess on my 458 win mag model 700 with a VX3 1.5x5 and on my Marlin guide gun.

I supose It could be servacable as it is.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM OR A SOLUTION
 
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Could it be that the barrel is not square to the receiver? Is the barrel bent? Are the scope mount holes truly on center? Is the scope defective, is it actually moving the reticle image through the full windage range? I had a Leupold give up the qhost in this regard, and it was fixed better than new by a return to Leupold. One in 20 Leupolds have "gone south" for me, but those that Leupold has fixed on warranty are the best of best.

If the scope mount holes are off, they could be filled and redrilled and tapped, quite a chore.
Or custom QRW bases could be drilled to compensate.

I once had a one-eyed gunsmith 8x40 a formerly good set of 6x48 holes and he got them cock-eyed.

I simply fixed that by drilling new base holes with corresponding cock-eyes. Then I epoxied the bases on with 8x40 screws cock-eyed, and it has worked well ever since. That was an Interarms Mark X.

A skillful gunsmith might be able to fix the problem by properly centering some 8x40 screw holes if you have 6x48 now, if that is the problem.

Hard to tell. You are going to have to do some more tinkering and examining to figure it out.
 
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Yeah I had the same problem with the new rings on my Win 375H&H, I returned them to the store to have them checked and they turned out the be faulty, the bases were ok, the bloke was telling me he has had a few returned for the same reason, seems the quality control at Leupold is a bit lacking, anyway they replaced the rings and everything is ok now, so try a new set that may solve your problem.....Les
 
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Hopefully it is that simple. Could be. Try a new set of rings. I haven't had any such problem, but that may be a new quality issue with Leupold rings.

Are they the QRW or are they the QR?

You have not specified which Leupold QD setup you are using.

You too tracks, QRW or QR?
 
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Hello Uglystick,
I know it sounds basic, but are you sure the clamp is squarely bottomed against the edge/side of the base itself?? Can be a bit out of line and cause such a problem. If you have not done so, would suggest you determine mechanical zero of the scope by counting total travel of wind adj. and place in the middle/ one half of total and then mount. A quick bolt removal, bore sighting at say 25-100 yards with easily seen target/bullseye will tell you real quick if great deal out of line. It can happen of course, but most unlikely that the rings, base, and especially the mounting holes in the receiver are not lined up correctly. Again, would suggest re mount and double check if everything is seated on the bases and try again.
 
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the manufacturing tolerances of the rifle, rings, and bases stacked against you in this instance. The reciever holes, rings and bases are always a little whacky, and it looke like they were all out enough to nail you this time. If you look at a lot of rings and bases, you will quickly see how every brand out there has some pretty loose manufactureing tolerances. sometimes it does not affect you, and sometimes it does.

The easiest thing to do is try another set of rings and bases. THey may swing the other way in your adjustment range or lie up closely if you are lucky. Otherwise, you have to work on the rings and bases to try to get them lined up correctly. Or you can use Burris Signature rings with the removable inserts and line things up like that. But they are not QD rings.
 
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I had the same issue with Talley rings and bases for my Dakota. Maddening- check, recheck, remount, question the scope, your own sanity. Ended up replacing the bases with another make and it lined up fine...weird.


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I would suggest getting a new base made for the front or back and have it attached by drilling it in alignment and using the original holes in the receiver. clap


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A fairly simple quick test is to take an extra scope you have lying around, and mount it to the same rings and bases.

Does it require an extreme adjustment in windage too?

If so, you know it's the bases/rings, and not the scope.

Garrett
 
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QR or QRW?
 
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They are QR
 
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They are QR


Ah ha! Not so easy to fix as the QRW.

I have only used one set of QR, and I will never do it again.

I have used "scores" of QRW and never had a problem with them.

First try QRW.

Hopefully there are no more "first generation" QRW's to be found with the round crossbolt that fits in the square cross-slot recoil shoulder.

You want the QRW that has a "square peg to fit a square hole."

QRW or Weaver steel blanks are easy to fit to existing holes, in case that is the problem, and not the scope, etc.

I would scrap the QR and save it to see if it will work on a small bore, or on something you do not want to have to QD.

I actually prefer the latest version of the QRW over any other non-integral bases.
 
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Hey everyone, I checked, and rechecked everything. Unfortunatly the fix is not an easy one. After looking at the holes in the reciever with a machinist friends lazer level and using micrometer I found one of the holes for the mounts in the reciever to be off by 1.3 mm. I can't believe that I could not see this with the naked eye. Now that I know it is there it looks very obvious. I called Remm custom shop and a very nice lady told me to send it back. She is even sending me box to ship it to them in. Fortunatly I do not need it untill Sept 2007 when I go to Tanzania again.

THANKS FOR ALL THE SUGGESTIONS.
 
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Uglystick,

I'll second the motion for the QRW rings. They ain't pretty, but they work perfectly.

I heartily approve of your scope choice. Great minds think alike!


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...from Texas, by way of Mason, Ohio and Aurora, Colorado!
 
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When I get the rifle back with the holes properly alligned I am going to try the QR and if they don't work I am going to try the QRW.
As far as the scope I like Leupold and use them on every rifle that I have because they work and I have never had a problem with them.
I can't say enough good things about Leupold and Barnes X!

Thanks Again
 
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