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Originally posted by jstevens:
My scanner is F-up, so no pic, but I have shot several .5 in. groups the best one is .253 for three shots with the .416 Ruger RSM at 100 yards. Miine was with the .416 370 NF and 105 grains of H4831SC. Can't beat .140

jstevens, if your scanner doesn't work, you can always take a digital photo!

Cheers,
Canuck

Good work, Canuck. Keep the 40 and over target thread alive. I'm off to the .375 Weatherby target thread with my all-time-best 3-shot group: .132 MOA.

maybe there is something to this .375 being the maximum caliber that most of us can shoot accurately.

Well Rip, it looks like Ol'Purple is the "Man among Men" as the most accurate .40 caliber and up rifle on AR.

Who would have ever thought that a box stock factory Ruger RSM from Great Northern Guns in Anchorage, Alaska would rise to the post of the "Most Accurate Over .40 Big Bore on AR", the forum with the finest big bore riflemen in the world. That accomplishment covers a lot of ground!

And, to the nut behind the trigger

Can,t top it but I wanted to share my .458 Lott RSM group with 450 grain North Fork Solids. I always get one flyer. But it was obviously operator induced. I have a 1.5 X 5 Loupold 30MM with the illuminated dot. I did have my RSM restocked, so it is not original. Shot at 100 yards. I cut the groups out and paste them in to data books. It reduces the space needed to keep the data.

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Here is a group with five North Fork 450 grain solids next to some 450 grain TSX.

RIP,

You may recall this 577 T-Rex group, posted by Mitch, many moons ago now....



Not quite as small as yours, but ultra-impressive. I believe you took Mitch's T-rex for a ride, eh?

Cheers,
Canuck

458Lottfan,
I got nearly identical results when comparing North Fork to Barnes. North Forks were clearly superior.

Canuck,
In 2001 I made a pilgrimage to Long Island, New York to meet with Obi Wan Mitch Carter, also known to us as Master Mitch.

He trained me in the ways of The Force, and taught me new techniques in the ways of controlling it and using it for doing good.

One special lesson was called "Torque Control."

I still have the test targets from those sessions with Master Mitch, and will post them here one day as a tribute to The Master. He even gave me a DVD of me shooting his .577 Trex at that 100-yard underground range where he shot that tiny 3-shot group you posted.

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Originally posted by Canuck:
RIP,

You may recall this 577 T-Rex group, posted by Mitch, many moons ago now....



Not quite as small as yours, but ultra-impressive. I believe you took Mitch's T-rex for a ride, eh?

Cheers,
Canuck

HOLY CRAPPIN' CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!! He did THAT with 193 grains of powder and a 650 grain bullet!
My hat is off to the MAN called Mitch!!!!

You see that the above pictured .577 Trex group was a light load for Mitch, fast and less recoil, so the muzzle rose less before the bullet left the barrel, thus it struck low, instead of dead center as he is sighted in for heavier bullets of greater recoil.

RIP
Not only were the North Forks more accurate. The issue of copper fouling has almost disappeared. I am a believer. Now I just need to shoot something big. Coyotes are not a good test bed even if it is fun to shoot them with a large rifle.

I changed my 2008 Tanzania buff hunt to a plains game hunt in Namibia. After having it booked for a while I wanted to take my kids. I could not afford to add them to the Tanzania trip (this was before the price increase issue) but I could afford for them to go to Namibia with me. Eventually they will have their own lives and having the kids with us will not be an option. For now I do every thing I can with them.

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You see that the above pictured .577 Trex group was a light load for Mitch,

You know yer on a whole nuther level when...193gr H4831 + 650gr Woodleigh = 2539 fps and 9300 ft-lbs....is a LIGHT load.

I realize his 14.3 lb, 26" barreled BBK-02 had a KDF brake, but that bad boy still had to pack a whallop, even with those "plunking" loads.

The recoil numbers are 139 ft-lbs of recoil at 25 fps, unbraked of course. How would you compare the actual recoil to more common carts RIP?

Cheers,
Canuck

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Originally posted by Canuck:

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You see that the above pictured .577 Trex group was a light load for Mitch,

You know yer on a whole nuther level when...193gr H4831 + 650gr Woodleigh = 2539 fps and 9300 ft-lbs....is a LIGHT load.

I realize his 14.3 lb, 26" barreled BBK-02 had a KDF brake, but that bad boy still had to pack a whallop, even with those "plunking" loads.

How would you compare the recoil to more common carts RIP?

Cheers,
Canuck

I only got to shoot the 750 and 900-grainers (40 to 50 shots total in three different sessions of training), and would estimate rearward recoil perceived to be a little less than a no-brake-10.75-pound 500 A2 pushing 600-grainers at 2500 fps ... but with more TORQUE!

I may have had some 0.5 MOA 3-shot groups with those ... its been a while ... will confirm, scan, post.

To control Mitch's .577 Trex required a thumb over the top of the barrel and a tight grip with both hands to keep the rifle from flipping sideways off the bags and over onto its right side.

Saeed's "flying rifle" with max loads must have the same torque and more rearward recoil and more muzzle rise. Suckers unaware of torque seem to drop the rifle.